Teabaggers imploding!!! They just can't believe the rich righties aren't

[CAG]

pouring money into their grassroots coffers in SW Missouri:

"How do you do it, my fellow conservatives? How do you super rich conservatives sit idly by and allow the middle-class conservatives to do your fighting for you?

Most of us who are tea party advocates and fighters, seem to be bearing the brunt of this fight alone. So, where are you? We have seen little to no money to fight this over-reaching government and you continue to stand silently by.

I have seen many of my fellow conservatives use what little money they have and it makes me wonder just what your agenda is. Perhaps you are paying off the very politicians who have poorly represented us and that could be the reason for your silence. It's hard to tell because you are nowhere to be found.

We are fighting for freedom and intrusion from our government in our everyday lives. We are fighting for our own choices in health care and many of us don't even have health insurance. Again, where are you?"

More WAAAHHHH-WAAAAAH naive drivel at:
http://www.news-leader.com/article/20100102/OPINIONS/1020326/1006/Rich+conservatives+sit+on+sidelines

[Goldstein1984]

1. Wealthy conservatives might support the Teabaggers as a

short-term political tactic, but in the end the Teabaggers threaten that status quo that is the source of power for the wealthy. Wealthy conservatives will no more support the Teabaggers than wealthy Democrats will support the progressive agenda to its logical conclusion.

Many others have written this, but the Democrat/Republican, Liberal/Conservative and Left/Right battles are red herrings. The real battle is a class war. As George Carlin said, there's a big party, and working class Americans aren't invited.

[StarfarerBill]

6. Excellent point.

Like the Junkers using the nazis to get them huge profits through rearmament, conquest, and slave labor.

But our Junkers probably won't allow the teabaggers to go so far as having the nation reduced to rubble...unless it's through the former's profiteering.

[Ian David]

7. I had to look that one up...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers

[StarfarerBill]

11. Sorry; I had the Junkers in the wrong context.

I'd read that the Junkers were considered the wealthy industrialists who funded the nazis because the former favored rearmament too. It's been so long; perhaps the author equated the big German capitalists with the Prussian Junker aristocrats. Anyway, wrong context, again; sorry.

[Alcibiades]

32. No you didn't

That's the wrong wiki link. Here's the disambiguation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junkers_%28disambiguation%29

And here's the link that does actually cover the Prussian Junkers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junker

The part you're a little confused on is the nature of the Junker class. By and large, they were a feudal class, that gained their money through a monopolization of the dominant mode of production in the feudal era: agriculture. Junkers are associated most closely with farming, not industry, but you are right to note that they were rich, for the most part (though some were, of course, much richer than others).

Junkers are a Prussian phenomenon, whereas Nazism got its start elsewhere, most notably in Bavaria and other southern parts of Germany. Though some Junkers did become Nazis and ardent Hitler supporters, they were, as a class, disdainful of him, not because he was evil, but because he was vulgar. The wikipedia article notes the ambiguous relationship between Nazis and the Prussian elite, and there's a lot elsewhere, notably on the strained relationship between Hitler and the Prussian officer corps.

If the Junker class is to blame for anything, it is that they were jingoistic and militaristic, but this had more to do with WWI than WWII.

[Goldstein1984]

8. Profiteering is doing just that

I was in New Hampshire in 2008, and the economy there is devastated, to the benefit of the wealthy from Massachusetts, which the locals call Massholes, who come in and take advantage of the devastation to buy up property. The irony was that every New Hampshirite I met was politically conservative and supported the system that was exploiting them.

[StarfarerBill]

12. I was meaning reducing the country to rubble through an all-out war.

But you're right: we don't need no stinking war here to annihilate our nation; our corporate class and its lackeys are doing a damned fine job of it on their own.

[Goldstein1984]

16. The irony is they are losing the war by going all out to win it.

All the "terrorists" have to do to win the "war of terror" is survive it. For us, the war goes on until the last person who might try to commit an act of terror is dead.

Every time we kill dozens of civilians in the process of killing one or two targets, we create more "terrorists."

Further, our huge deployment of expensive conventional forces is bankrupting the nation.

I believe "we" are doing exactly what our adversaries want us to do.

And a bad economy conveniently supplies fodder for the war machine courtesy of economically-induced patriotism.

[StarfarerBill]

17. I agree: it's a race to the bottom between

our socioeconomic implosion caused by massive giveaways to the MIC and other corporate interests, and our multiple wars making the whole world our collective enemy.

[Goldstein1984]

20. And 5% of the world's human population is condemned to

oblivion because our leaders insist on doing 50% of the world's "defense" spending and leaving the bill for our grandchildren.

[StarfarerBill]

22. I don't believe in karma, but this is definitely the wheel coming full circle.

An empire's arrogance is inevitably its downfall.

[Goldstein1984]

23. I believe in karma to the degree that we create the world in

which we live.

Benjamin Franklin on karma: "He that lieth down with Dogs, shall rise up with Fleas."

[burning rain]

26. You forgot to mention the Nazis rewarded their support with "Cash for Junkers"!

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[StarfarerBill]

27. Another excellent point.

[Land Shark]

28. +1

[Doctor_J]

29. Rich cons also need soldiers to keep the war money flowing

the subset of the teabaggers that aren't snivelling cowards will sign up to fight "for the American way of life"

[Harry Monroe]

30. "Wealthy conservatives might support the Teabaggers as a, short-term political tactic..."

I believe the phrase you're looking for here is "useful idiots". They'll support them in the short term as long as they serve wealthy conservatives purposes. This has been going on for years. Witness the Red South who is always voting against their own economic self interests when they vote Republican. The Republican wealthy establishment sees them as simple pawns. But overall, there is a deep schism in the Republican Party.

[stubtoe]

33. Just like they used the Evangelicals and religious right for years.

Guess they didn't learn from that episode.

[Enthusiast]

36. +1 on Carlin's words.

Someone should erect a Carlin monument somewhere.

[FSogol]

2. Haw-haw. Rubes! n/t

[PM Martin]

3. These tea party...."people" are reactionaries of the worst kind.

They want to return to the dark ages of the 1300's.
The wealthiest would not want that as they cannot enjoy their the spoils of their fortunes in such a repressive society (unless you are on good terms with the monarch/ruler).
It's quite a conundrum for them.

[zbdent]

4. I hear Rick Warren got far more than he asked for ...

maybe they can hit him up for some $$$ ...

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. How's it feel, howling in the wilderness? Lonely, maybe?

hehe.

[southernyankeebelle]

9. Maybe your are finally openning up your eyes. You sorta gave a hint. Now you should take

the hint. They are letting you do the fighting and you give your little money so they can turn around and use it against all of us. When are you going to realize coporations own all of us. Corporations own the congress and the senate. They owned it long before the democratics got on the bandwagon. Now the shock to see even the democratics are owned by the corporations.

[Hav]

10. lol

"We are fighting for our own choices in health care and many of us don't even have health insurance."

I don't know about you, but for me as a European with "socialized healthcare", that was both funny and sad. A real reform of the health care system could give them the chance to even receive the benefits of a good and affordable healthcare and they don't want to see it.

[donco]

13. That’s former House Republican whip Roy Blunt country,

he is most likely hogging all the money up in his bid for the Senate seat vacated by longtime Missouri Republican, Kit Bond.

[Walk away]

14. They need more corporate sponsorship!

Can you imagine teabaggers carrying big banners with misspelled corporate logo emblazoned on them?

"United Heath Care"......"Verizon Wierless"? They would turn grass roots movements into the sports arenas of the two thousand and tens!

[county worker]

15. What is really funny about this is that the rich conservatives will screw the tea baggers even if

the tea baggers do get somebody elected.

The rich are saying, "we don't need no stinking tea baggers!"

[d_r]

18. This is good

the walmart republicans are slowly starting to realize that the country club republicans take their single issue votes for granted without any intention of supporting their views.

[CAG]

19. there was also the typical repuke "Obama is a muslin" LTE in that same

paper that weekend.... that one was too typical to highlight here.

[Raster]

21. Silly little teabagging twits! You're being used. Get. A. Clue.

Nothin' like stirring up the low rent, reich-wing rabble to do the dirty work and then discarding their white trash asses like a used kleenex!

[MineralMan]

24. Stupid teabaggers don't understand that they scare the rich

conservatives more than they scare the liberals. Morons abound.

[applegrove]

25. Very interesting. I wonder what it is about the teabaggers that the rich don't like.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

31. Poor Teabaggers thought the rich righties were their friends...

These dummies actually believe they have something in common with the wealthy elitists.
Let them learn the hard way. They have more in common and would be better served supporting
the Progressive movement.

[jmowreader]

34. The "fighting for freedom from intrusion" line always makes me go "huh?"

Take one hundred teabaggers and ask them a series of questions:

q1: Do you believe life begins at conception?
My guess is 95 to 98 percent of the teabaggers would say yes. There's no way you'd ever get 100 percent on anything.

q2: Do you believe innocent pre-born life should be protected?
The same people who answered yes to the first question would answer yes to this one as well.

q3: Would you support the creation of a government agency to end abortion?
You MIGHT get a drop to 85 teabaggers, but you would still have an overwhelming majority.

q4: This government agency would cost the American taxpayer $52 billion per year and employ 225,000 workers. Would you still support the creation of this agency?
I didn't pull these numbers out of the air--that's the budget and personnel strength of the Department of Homeland Security. So basically, we'd be creating a second DHS just to keep women from having abortions. And once again, you'd get a drop but it wouldn't be that big--you're looking at maybe 75 teabaggers who would support doing this.

On this statement I can be positive: every teabagger claims to be for freedom and against the government being able to intrude into your personal life. But if you were to say you wanted to literally turn America into a communist country to stop abortion, they'd all be "yeah! Sign me right up!"

[Tutankhamun]

35. If only they WOULD actually think things through...

Anyone who's illiterate enough to actually get behind anything that proclaims they're "fighting for...intrusion from the government..." is beyond hopeless.

The nimrod who wrote that thing is supposed to be the "smart" one.

[RainDog]

37. BECAUSE THEY WERE USING YOU ALL ALONG TO MAKE MONEY, SUCKERS n/t