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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:15 PM
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How to Get Bipartisanship and Crush With 59 Senators - Cenk @ Huffington Post
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By Cenk Uygur

You don't get bipartisanship by asking politely. Obama made the mistake of asking Republicans over for tea in his first year in office and thought he could charm them into voting his way. You don't swing votes by asking politely, you swing them by implicit political threats. You do it with political force.

So, in financial reform Obama shouldn't ask Republicans to vote with him, he should dare them not to. He should say:

"You want to vote with the bankers. Go ahead. I dare you. Every day I'm going to talk about how these bankers took hard-earned taxpayer money and turned it into record bonuses for themselves. I'm going to show pictures of their yachts and mansions. And then I'm going to say you want to protect them so you can hang out with them on their private jets and play with them in their vacation hideaways. I'm going to take a cut out of you and put it on a picture of their yacht. I'm going to name names. I'm going to make you famous. You still want to vote with the bankers. Make my fucking day."

That's how you get the opposition to vote with you. Who cares if their feelings are hurt, you'll get their votes if, and only if, they think their seat is on the line. Politics is almost always a matter of naked self-interest. Make it politically perilous for them to vote against you and all of a sudden they'll be in a lot more bipartisan mood.

This is one of the few things George Bush did well. Why do you think all those Democrats voted for the Iraq War, because they liked Bush? Because he asked them nicely? No, he made them believe that they will lose their seats if they didn't vote with him. And all of a sudden, he had a solid bipartisan vote in favor his policy.

The new conventional wisdom in DC is that the Democrats are devastated after the Massachusetts loss. And of course there are many who are from now on. What the hell are they talking about? The Democrats still have 59 senators! Let me do some quick math for you - that's 18 more senators than the Republicans have. That's a crushing majority, if you're willing to use it.

Bush and Cheney got everything passed with far less senators. Do you think Cheney would have been belly-aching that he only had 59 senators and that he couldn't do anything until he had 60 or more?

If Barack Obama finally does what he was elected to do -- stand up for the people and take on the establishment, there isn't anything he couldn't do with 59 senators. Hit the bankers, hit them hard and dare the Republicans to get in the way. The absolute worst case scenario is that you lose the vote but the Republicans make the dramatic mistake of filibustering to protect the bankers' bonuses. If you thought people were pissed before, wait till you see what happens to the party that makes that mistake...


to read the entire piece at Huffington Post.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:26 PM
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1. God, we need more like Cenk!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 02:29 PM
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2. LBJ Knew How to Do It
We haven't seen his like since.
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suzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 11:45 PM
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15. LBJ had moderate and liberal Republicans to deal with.
He also had some major issues, like Civil Rights, on which to build bi-partisanship.

The constant comparisons of LBJ and Obama are pretty lame.
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 12:03 AM
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16. LOL - indeed! Goldwater would be a "moderate" democrat today! nt
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:03 PM
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3. Democrats seem unable to grasp that sometimes it's better to lose with a principled position
than win with a piece of shit.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 03:52 PM
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4. OF COOOOOOOOOURSE!!!
Why does Cenk get this and Obama doesn't?
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:33 PM
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5. If you posit that neither Obama nor Senate Dems *want* to do anything populist, it all makes sense.
.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:38 PM
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7. You posted while I was write the same basic thing. LOL
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:14 PM
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9. Yep. Can't argue with that.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:03 PM
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11. You forgot Rahm and Geithner.
I'm sure *they* want to embrace populism.

;)
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Barbara2423 Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:03 PM
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12. Everyone gets this Obama does not.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:43 AM
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17. I hope you're wrong
And I'm worried you're right.
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:36 PM
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6. Congressional Democrats and the Hierarchy Do Not WANT to Pass Progressive Legislation...
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 04:37 PM by theFrankFactor
All of this rests on the premise that the Democrats in Congress and Barack actually WANT to empower the citizens and not suck corporate wee-wee's. They do not! Every action taken since this "historic" election and "mandate" for change has been S.H.I.T.

It's going to be silly to assume that they give a damn about the base or even the "center" for that matter as more and more people see the poopie on their plate courtesy of the Democratic power structure and their mascot Barack.

There needs to be a seismic shift in the dynamics of citizen involvement in our system.

I must emphasize, sorry: OBVIOUSLY ELECTING A CONGRESS FULL OF DEMOCRATS DOESN'T F'n MATTER! WHY WOULD ANYONE IN DEMOCRATIC POWER SUDDENLY SHIFT TO GIVING A RAT'S ASS ABOUT YOU AND ME?
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 04:43 PM
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8. Furthermore, and Cenk is 100% Correct...
What Cenk describes is what this Democrat EXPECTED! It was the logical thing to do on the heels of the Bush misAdministration. It has not and will not happen. This is a duplicitous scam playing out before us. All of a sudden Barack is gonna get tough on corporate influence? Really? Now?

He really shepherded in that Health Care reform bill didn't he?

His version of getting tough on Wall Street is to ask Wall Street what he should do. He's shit. George Carlin was right (about almost everything except the "don't vote" business).
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 05:24 PM
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10. This should happen!
Expose the bastards!

K&R!
:kick:
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 07:04 PM
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13. K&R
:patriot:
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:08 PM
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14. K&R n/t
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:32 AM
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18. The same could and should have been done with health insurers
-and not just with Republicans in Congress.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 05:43 PM
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20. And drug companies. nt/
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 01:35 PM
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19. K & R!
:kick:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 08:47 PM
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21. Related videos
"TYT: Fox News Celebrates Brown Win - What Obama & Dems Should Do Next": http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x425906

This is exactly what Maddow & Liz Warren discussed, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA9rh2XuYQ8
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:03 PM
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22. Thanks
for the Maddow link.
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