I just got the email in my inbox...

[ejbr]

Subject: FW: LET ME SEE IF I GOT THIS RIGHT.

IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET
A JOB,
A DRIVERS LICENSE,
SOCIAL SECURITY CARD,
WELFARE,
FOOD STAMPS,
CREDIT CARDS,
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE,
FREE EDUCATION,
FREE HEALTH CARE,
A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE
THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT
AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE.

AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT, AND YOUR CHILDREN FOR YEARS TO COME! UNLESS YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT.... NOW


I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A FIRM GRASP ON THE SITUATION

PLEASE KEEP THIS GOING ....FORWARD TO ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS & FAMILY

IT'S TIME TO WAKE UP AMERICA !!!!!!!!!!!!

_____________________________________

my response:

However, the problem with Arizona's law is not with those who are here illegally. It is with those who have as much right to be here as anyone. To use the provided examples, the concern is

IF YOU ARE A LEGAL NORTH KOREAN WHO LOOKS ILLEGAL, YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.

IF YOU ARE A LEGAL IRANIAN WHO LOOKS ILLEGAL YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.

IF YOU ARE A LEGAL AFGHAN WHO LOOKS ILLEGAL, YOU GET SHOT.

IF YOU ARE A LEGAL SAUDI ARABIAN WHO LOOKS ILLEGAL YOU WILL BE JAILED.

IF YOU ARE A LEGAL CHINESE WHO LOOKS ILLEGALYOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.

IF YOU ARE A LEGAL VENEZUELAN WHO LOOKS ILLEGAL YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.

IF YOU ARE A LEGAL CUBAN WHO LOOKS ILLEGAL YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO ROT.

One can (most CERTAINLY) argue whether the responses to being illegal in these other countries are over the top, however, the concern of Americans who believe in the constitution is whether legal citizens will have their rights violated. One should not use the argument that illegals get undeserved rights in order to profile people who look a certain way, but use this argument against the means of HOW illegals get these rights. We all admit that there is a problem, but this new law seems "to throw the baby (rights of citizenship) out with the bath water." And unless I am mistaken, I thought we ALL loved the "baby"!

[LeftishBrit]

1. Also...

since when did America regard these countries as role models?

[EXneoCON]

3. That struck me...

... as a fallacy, also. Cain't say I iz serprized...

[ejpoeta]

4. only when it serves our purposes i guess. but good point there.

[Doctor_J]

8. Good catch. Wingers are always pointing to Communist China

as a model for how to deal with criminals (summary execution, for example). I usually reply, "You should move there if that seems better to you"

[Jefferson23]

11. Only when it's convenient. n/t

[EXneoCON]

2. Oooooh!

I hope I get that in my email, too! I'd love to "reply all" with YOUR reply! Good job!

[liberal N proud]

5. Reply and tell the send to move to one of those countries

If they are so much better than here.

[proudohioan]

6. Would love to point out to your chain mail happy friend....

That only children born here in US will get TANF (no longer called "welfare",to the happy chain mailer who seems to think his/herself so knowledgeable), food stamps and medicaid. Not the parents (however, emergency situations do exist).

Highly unlikely that they will get subsidized housing or free education, either (I'm assuming that chain mailer wants you to believe that college is free, and is not talking about K-12 public schools).

Oh, sure, they get jobs, alright.....who else in America would allow themselves to be exploited for the equivalent of ten bucks a day???

The Social Security cards they get are probably purchased at a flea market, and those using them probably live in fear every day that they will get caught using them; that kind of "underground living certainly isn't MY cup of tea.

And while there is always an exception to any case, those here illegally are not living the life of Goldman Sachs, who, IMO, have abused the taxpayers much more brutally than any illegal immigrant will able to in a thousand lifetimes.

And remind your happy chain mailer that someday his/her own ethnicity/traits will become "unacceptable" as well; that's what happens when we allow hate and intolerance to dictate our politics.

[Deep13]

7. Do we really want Iran and N. Korea to be our benchmarks?

None of those horrible things happen when one enters Canada illegally.

[Warpy]

9. First, we don't want to be N. Korea, Saudi Arabia, or any of those others

Second, this pack of lies:

IF YOU CROSS THE U.S. BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET
A JOB (exploited by a scumbag at less than the prevailing wage in near slavery conditions until you pay him back for the ride in the fan with no food, water or sanitation for days)
A DRIVERS LICENSE (only if you fork out more substandard wages for a fake)
SOCIAL SECURITY CARD (only if you fork out more substandard wages for a fake)
WELFARE (if you apply, you will be sent back. Period.)
FOOD STAMPS (if you apply, you will be sent back. Period.)
CREDIT CARDS (only if your fake documentation allows you to have a bank account, something that is extremely rare. Mexicans don't trust banks and with good reason)
SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE (if your paperwork is convincing and your savings adequate, you can take out a loan, but it will not be subsidized at any level.)
FREE EDUCATION (void where prohibited, but isn't ignorance more costly?)
FREE HEALTH CARE (only while you're in a detention center waiting for deportation, otherwise you get worse care than uninsured Americans)
A LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON (along with every group you can name, including US citizens who are prisoners)
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF PUBLIC DOCUMENTS PRINTED IN YOUR LANGUAGE (which, by the way, is also the native language of US citizens in much of the southwest. Deal.)
THE RIGHT TO CARRY YOUR COUNTRY'S FLAG WHILE YOU PROTEST THAT YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH RESPECT (except you'll be yelled at and spit on by WASP yahoos)
AND, IN MANY INSTANCES, YOU CAN VOTE (if you try to register with those fake documents, you will be discovered and sent back. Nobody tries, Binky)

These angry poor white trash males really are something, working themselves into absolute frenzies over things that really don't happen.

Now legal immigrants can and do get much of the above except the right to vote until they are naturalized citizens. Perhaps that's what Mr. White Trash is really angry about, people coming here legally and getting what his (white) grandpappy did.

[DrZeeLit]

12. Bravo! That's the BEST REPLY. I'm copying that one right now!!!! Thank you!!!!

[sabrina 1]

10. Since these morons never compare the U.S. to

other modern, Western Democracies, that seems to be an admission that we cannot be compared favorably to democracies, only to dictatorships. And they seem to be fine with that.

[DrZeeLit]

13. You think they're angry about illegal immigrants from Canada? Hmmmm......... (n/t)

[wolfgangmo]

15. OH ya, the Canadian problem.

YOu must mean the problem Canada has with "yank-backs" sneaking across the border in order to obtain health care. THAT Canadian problem.

[southernyankeebelle]

14. Here is a question I would like answered. Why don't you arrest owners who hire illegal workers?

[cyr330]

16. I received that same idiotic e-mail. . .

Considering the person who sent it to me, I should have just deleted it without reading it!