Concern Is Voiced Over Religious Intolerance.

[elleng]

Prominent Christian, Jewish and Muslim leaders held an extraordinary “emergency summit” meeting in the capital on Tuesday to denounce what they called “the derision, misinformation and outright bigotry” aimed at American Muslims during the controversy over the proposed Islamic community center near ground zero.

“This is not America,” said Cardinal Theodore E. McCarrick, the emeritus Roman Catholic archbishop of Washington, flanked by three dozen clergy members and religious leaders at a packed news conference at the National Press Club. “America was not built on hate.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/08/us/08muslim.html?hp

[Fumesucker]

1. "Nits make lice"..

http://everything2.com/title/Nits+make+lice

"Nits make lice" is most famously attributed to Colonel John M. Chivington, former Methodist minister and perpetrator of the infamous Sand Creek Massacre in Colorado, 1864. It is often misattributed to General Phil Sheridan, who, rather, said "The only good Indians I saw were dead."

[babylonsister]

2. Thank you sincerely, voices of reason! Recommend! nt

[depakid]

3. Methinks the archbishop emeritus needs a remedial history course

[elleng]

4. Oh, America WAS built on hate, eh?

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

[depakid]

5. Hatred for Catholics (and Catholic immigrants) was endemic throughout the 19th and 20th Century

See, e.g. Philadelphia Nativist Riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Nativist_Riots

[totodeinhere]

11. Of course when that was written it did not apply to Africans and Native Americans.

So yes it was built on hate toward some people.

[elleng]

13. You go from 'it did not apply' to 'hate?'

[Turborama]

6. K&R Video of his statement is now in the political videos forum

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x502880

Links to the full press conference are here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x502867

[totodeinhere]

7. Of course the good Cardinal McCarrick represents a theology that hates gay people.

So I'd say he is practicing selective outrage.

[elleng]

8. and he should be silenced, or the millions benevolent acts of Catholics should be ignored?

Does Fr. McCarrick sound 'outraged?'

And does a theology 'hate?'

[totodeinhere]

10. Yes, Catholic theology represents hate. To them, practicing gays and lesbians are sinners.

How more hateful can you be than to condemn a whole class of people to a life of sin? And I have Googled the subject and I have found no indication that the cardinal has condemned the church's stand on this issue.

BTW, I dod not say that "millions benevolent acts of Catholics should be ignored." You are putting words in my mouth. But I would hope that most of those benevolent Catholics can condemn their church's hateful attitude toward the GLBT community.

[elleng]

14. Not putting words in your mouth, but challenging your 'logic.'

Theology which suggests that certain persons are sinners does NOT mean those practicing the theology HATE those people, but rather believe their ways are wrong, and they should and can be 'saved.'

Over-use of inflammatory language is harmful, and plays into the hands of real abusers (like the protestant clergyman in Florida.)

[Spike89]

9. And how much

tolerance do you think they have for athiests?

[elleng]

12. A lot. Tolerance and kindness.

I'm agnostic from Jewish family, married to Catholic, daughters attended Catholic schools, and I have received nothing but welcomes in the Catholic community.

[Rebubula]

15. Now...

...if they would just hold a summit in Islamic countries to discuss and stem the tide of 'anti-anything not Islam' that is epidemic in the ME and other Islamic nations.

I get so tired of hearing about these poor, oppressed Muslims in the US when Jews\Christians\women\gays are routinely abused and subjected to harsh treatment in the home countries of Islam.

Yes - we need to set an example of how we can all get along and build bridges. BUT - I do not think that we need to lose sight that the people that we are bending over backwards for do not extend the same courtesies in their homelands.

Both issues can be discussed without detracting from the other.