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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:47 AM
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Michael Moore Teaches Rahm Emanuel a F**cking Economics Lesson
By Michael Moore, MichaelMoore.com
Posted on September 7, 2010, Printed on September 8, 2010
http://www.alternet.org/story/148106/

Dear Rahm Emanuel,

I read this week that — according to a new book by Steven Rattner, your administration's former "Car Czar" — during White House meetings about how to save the tens of thousands of jobs that would be lost if GM and Chrysler collapsed, your response was, "Fuck the UAW!"

Now, I can't believe you actually said that. Maybe Rattner got confused because you drop a lot of F-bombs, or maybe your assistant was trying to order lunch and you said (to Rattner) "Fuck you" and then to your assistant "A&W, no fries."

Or maybe you did mean Fuck the UAW. If so, let me give you a little fucking lesson (a lesson I happen to know because my fucking uncle was in the sit-down strike that founded the fucking UAW).

Before there were unions, there was no middle class. Working people didn't get to send their kids to college, few were able to own their own fucking home, nobody could take a fucking day off for a funeral or a sick day or they might lose their fucking job.

http://www.alternet.org/economy/148106/michael_moore_teaches_rahm_emanuel_a_f%2A%2Acking_economics_lesson/
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:53 AM
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1. fucking recommend. nt
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:55 AM
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2. me fucking too n/t
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:56 AM
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4. Fuck yeah! nt
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:56 AM
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3. Yeah, I am not over being pissed at the arrogant ass yet. either. nt
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:57 AM
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5. Fucking awesome..
Michael fucking Moore fucking rocks..

:yourock:
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another saigon Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:58 AM
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6. right fucking on
not that rahm gives one shit about us.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:59 AM
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7. Rahm doesn't give a damn.
He got his.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:05 AM
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8. But Rahm wants to get us back to those Good Old Days:
"Before there were unions, there was no middle class. Working people didn't get to send their kids to college, few were able to own their own fucking home, nobody could take a fucking day off for a funeral or a sick day or they might lose their fucking job."

Rich people matte, and it's important to keep them happy because they're the ones with the big bucks to donate. Piddling amounts from the unions just can't match the kind of funding you can get from the corporations. Who needs a middle class, anyway? Who needs educated worker bees, or worker bees with their own hives, or worker bees that want days off from service to their masters? Worker bees should work and then they should die.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:47 AM
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17. or worker bees that can buy the stuff the rich queen bees make?
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:10 AM
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9. Evidently the President of the UAW doesn't believe he "said that"
or even "if" he did - and taken out of context - believes that Rahm has helped the UAW tremendously.

I normally like MM - but he's off base here. (so are all the Rahm haters for that matter.)
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:12 AM
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10. Rahm has successfully alienated
the democratic wing of the Democratic Party to where he's jeopardize many House and Senate seats. He's good at getting Republicans elected and taking money from corporate campaign contributors. The DLC always loses with the exception of Bill Clinton.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:58 PM
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32. DLC bought its way into the Dem Party . . . maybe we can pay them to leave?
Wonder how much $$$$ the party and our candidates and elected officials took

from DLC-corps???

hmmmmmmmmmmm???

Come to think of it .... maybe the corporates own the Dem Party lock, stock 'n barrel?



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drynberg Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:31 AM
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11. YEAH!
MM you're right on with this "lesson" for our
"Potty Mouth" Chief of Staff.  Rahm needs to go now,
he's embarrassing the WH and all Dems.
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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:33 AM
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57. Moore to Obama: "Replace Rahm with Me!"
I will come to D.C. and clean up the mess that's been created around you. I will work for $1 a year. I will help the Dems on Capitol Hill find their spines and I will teach them how to nonviolently beat the Republicans to a pulp.

And I will help you get done what the American people sent you there to do. I don't need much, just a cot in the White House basement will do.

(Snip)

"THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ELECTED ME, NOT THE REPUBLICANS, TO RUN THE COUNTRY! I AM IN CHARGE! I WILL ORDER ALL OBSTRUCTIONISTS OUTTA MY WAY! IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WHAT I'M DOING THEY CAN THROW MY ASS OUT IN 2012. IN THE MEANTIME, I CALL THE SHOTS ON THEIR BEHALF! NOW, CONGRESS, DROP AND GIVE ME 50!!"


http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikes-letter/president-obama-replace-rahm-me-open-letter-michael-moore
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:49 AM
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12. Good for Michael Moore...
"Oh, I can just hear you now: "Fuck Michael Moore!" No problem. But Fuck the UAW? How 'bout if I just leave off the ‘A’ and the ‘W’?"

Rahm should have been gone a long time ago.

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:51 AM
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13. This is the guy who hired some non-union crew because...
IATSE members weren't good enough for him?

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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 09:32 AM
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14. Looks like MM took that "professional left" slur personally -
the result has been most amusing. Well, hopefully Rahm will leave soon to ruin - oops I mean run - Chicago.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:08 AM
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15. Moore is not even a true Democrat , the way Rahm is.
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 10:09 AM by bahrbearian
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:46 AM
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16. If Rahm is a true Democrat, 90% of DUers aren't, which isn't meant as a compliment to Rahm
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:52 PM
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30. Presume you're saying you are rooting for the DLC-corporate-wing of the Dem Party???
Rahm Emmanuel is DLC poison and should be booted out of the party --
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:09 AM
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18. Fuck that fucking retard!
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DWilliamsamh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 08:24 AM
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58. I wish I could rec your one liner...I can't so: fuck that fucking retard, Rahm. (N/T).
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awnobles Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:43 AM
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19. Bingo
Right on!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:08 PM
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20. How many Democratic union voters in Chicago?
Rahm may get a surprise if he thinks he can waltz into the Mayor's office there.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:13 PM
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21. How do you "teach a lesson" to someone who is 1) not listening and 2) doesn't care?
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 12:13 PM by newtothegame
:shrug:

Writing a blog post to someone who doesn't read your blog seems a bit silly.

ed for sp
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 08:38 PM
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60. Sometimes it's worth it
just to vent.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 12:51 PM
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22. The rancid hatred of unions stems from the simple fact that those opposed do not want:
a middle class, the children of the working class going to college, working people owning their own home, or getting the day off for a funeral, or taking a sick day. See, this is so simple. :)
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 01:08 PM
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23. OMFG! I LOVE Michael Moore! Moore Fucking ROCKS!!!
Mike: :yourock:

This is my most favorite rebuttal of all time!!! :evilgrin:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 04:55 PM
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24. Michael Moore is my FUCKING hero! Perhaps some of the DU'ers who are telling us or demanding us to
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 04:56 PM by flyarm
calm down and get perspective need to read what Michael has to say..let them take it up with him!

I would venture to guess he would give them one fucking earful!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 04:56 PM
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25. oh and K&R big fucking time for Michael! eom
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 05:02 PM
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26. MM is fuckin' right! nt
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:09 PM
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27. Taking a comment out of context is really dangerous.
Unless Moore really knows what was said and what the other comments were, it's really unfair to paint someone with a "Fuck the UAW" brush.

Maybe they were about to agree on some point, and someone said that the UAW would never go for that, so Rahm responded "Fuck the UAW." To me, that wouldn't mean REALLY fuck the UAW. That to me would mean...we all agree on this point, and if the UAW, whose jobs we're trying to save, won't go for it, that's too bad. We've gotta do what we think is right to save the jobs.

Or maybe he DID mean just "Fuck the UAW" generally.

Thing is...it's not really fair to quote someone when (1) you're not sure if the quote is correct, as Moore admits, and (2) you don't have any of the context or what the statement was referring to.

Would you want yourself quoted that way, and blogged about? Have we forgotten so soon the lesson learned by the lady who was seen on videotape saying she was racist against white farmers seeking monetary help?
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:14 PM
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28. Michael Moore's agent is Rahm Emmanuel's brother...
... I am sure with a single degree of separation he had access to plenty of context.

BTW, aren't yourself engaged in the same thing as your comment title implies, given the false equivalence you're trying to come up with at the end of your post?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:40 PM
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29. Knowing history of Rahm Emmanuel, he owes every Democrat on every issue --
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 07:41 PM by defendandprotect
DLC poison -- and should be thrown out of Dem Party!!

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MsPithy Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:19 PM
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35. If Rahm and the White House had been fighting for EFCA
for this whole time, I might say MM is mistaken. But, when was the last time anyone from the White House even said the words, Employee Free Choice Act? Fuck ya, Rahm said it, because he believes it!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:53 PM
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31. Thanks, Michael -- LOVE to you . . . screw Rahm Emmanuel and DLC --
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:03 PM
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33. Wish I could rec this more than one fucking time!
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:13 PM
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34. FK&FR nft
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:28 PM
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36. Rahm & the DLC never really loved the Working Class.
Fuck THEM!

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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 08:41 PM
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61. Rahm and the DLC
are fucking Republican-lite!
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:56 PM
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37. If Rahm was the one pushing for "bi-partisanship" then good riddance. If not,
then we need to get the inside scoop on exactly who to oust from the administration.

The idiot who decided that watering down every bill with loads of right wing crap ideas is the one who needs to go.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 09:48 PM
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38. Fuck Yea
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 09:50 PM
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39. Fucking A!
K&R
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Phlem Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:31 PM
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40. I loves me some Michael Moore but
the sad thing is Rahm couldn't give a shit. He's of the Dick Cheney, Darth Vader type. And yea, he's COS of the Democratic party.
When did we get handed the shit sandwich with extra shit cause that's what we got with Rahm.

-p
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:41 PM
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41. I hope Rahm gets a fucking clue.
But I know I fucking hope in fucking vain.
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DirtyDawg Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 10:46 PM
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42. Fuckin' A'
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:13 PM
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43. F**K The Unions!
Although, maybe a "thank you" would suffice instead of having sex with them.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:20 PM
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44. I like MM and Rahm, not so much
Neither of them are Economists. Nice rant though.
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PSzymeczek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-14-10 08:42 PM
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62. Great rant.
Sometimes you just need to rant.
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 11:58 PM
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45. K&R
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:17 AM
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46. MM f***in' rocks!! You tell 'em Mikey... n/t
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:28 AM
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47. I love MM. Goodbye Rahm. don't let the door hit you in the fucking ass.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 01:07 AM
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48. K&R -- Love this guy! (n/t)
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 01:42 AM
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49. Couldn`t Rahm be useful somewhere else?
Like maybe go to work for Wal-Mart and help them keep the union out?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:45 AM
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53. Yeah...send him to keep the union out of the Beijing Wal-Mart plant!
n/t.
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Roci Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 02:56 AM
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50. I cannot believe
That someone like Rahm would be stupid enough to say something like that in an election year. He might think it, and I think he means it. But the oldest rule in the book says you never say it out loud, except behind closed Presidential doors. He'll find out how wrong is is this November when his boss, you know the one elected by unions, labor, and upset voters looses control of the legislative agenda to someone Like Lil Snooty Speaker Newty and the creepy man with the orange tan.

Yes, I know. A personal friendship with a President is great job security. But if Democrats continue to lay down and become the doormats of November,our sitting president, who'd be sitting in the Senate if it weren't for organized labor and organized voters, may find his re-election campaign, which starts November 3rd, may be a longer (unpaved) road than he thinks. I hope Rahm runs for mayor of Chicago. At least that's one way to get him out of the White House before a ground swell of voters from the party of NO will have a chance to do it by force of politics.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 04:25 AM
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51. K&Fucking R.....nt
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 06:35 AM
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52. Unions -- the people that brought you the weekend!!!
Before that, there were no "weekends".
Sunday was a day of rest, go to church in the morning, and then spend the rest of the day at work!
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:23 AM
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54. K & R (n/t)
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:25 AM
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55. fuckin A....
Michael Moore strikes again
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 07:31 AM
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56. What Michael Moore knows about economics wouldn't fill a thimble
unrec for a completely inaccurate title
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-11-10 02:08 AM
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59. Big ol K&R for MMoore
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