CHURCH & STATE - A lunatic Christian cult has the run of the White House

[Ediacara]

CHURCH & STATE
by Neal Pollack


illustrated by Danny Hellman

A lunatic Christian cult has the run of the White House and the ear of the president. What do they want? The end of the world. Be afraid.

Every truly religious person can tell the story of his or her moment of conversion. Mine came when I heard that the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq would now be called Camp Redemption. I can think of 100 more appropriate names, including the International House of Torture, Leashland, or Symbolic Pile of Rubble. But no, Camp Redemption it will be. I didn't see God, exactly, upon learning of the holy camp. It's more like I saw our president's God clearly, for the first time. Yea, I did shiver at the sight of his flaming sword!

Who or what, exactly, will Camp Redemption redeem? The people who committed the torture? They're currently either being sacrificed in show trials or slowly having their names erased from our collective memory by some sort of sinister government mind-control device. Is it our international reputation? That would have to be one whale of a camp. Or what about the prisoners themselves? Come, you heathens! A ticket to heaven awaits you at... Camp Redemption!

Like everything else churned out by the Bush administration, Camp Redemption is an Orwellian nonsense term. It's a big old jail, people. Get over yourselves. I'm offended nonetheless. We all know that "redemption," under this president, can only be handed out by one mythical figure, Jesus Christ himself. I have no truck with the many good men and women of the United States who believe in Jesus, but that doesn't mean that I share their specific belief. Heaven help me, I'm an American, not a Christian. I don't want my tax dollars going to help Halliburton "build" bridges, and I don't want my semi-hard-earned money going to "redeem" anyone in my name. Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord, my ass. This is a secular country.

More at the Stranger

[drfemoe]

1. Good One

<snip>

Jim Wallis, the editor of the liberal theology magazine Sojourners >>
"The Bible is being used to justify our policies, not to call them into question. When Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney talk about the necessity of American power and supremacy, military supremacy in the world as the only way to peace, I understand that as a foreign policy. I think it's not a wise foreign policy, but I understand it.

"When President Bush adds God to their formulation and says God's purpose or intention is somehow linked with American military preeminence, that's a very dangerous thing. President Bush and the White House basically choreographed a liturgy at the National Cathedral. President Bush was a chief homilist. In the pulpit of the National Cathedral, he made a war speech. He called the nation to arms in the pulpit of the National Cathedral, and he claimed a divine mission for our nation to rid the world of evil. That is not only bad foreign policy or presumptuous foreign policy--I would say it's idolatrous foreign policy to claim God's purpose for that mission. And in the language that Mr. Bush has used, he does this again and again and again. Our role, and his role as president, this is acclaiming a righteous that Pax Americana is God's foreign policy. This is a very unsettling thing."

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[opihimoimoi]

3. Did these learn from Nancy who called in those Astrologer guys for consult

ation for Ronny?

Damn these Pubs and their hangups.

[Fovea]

2. Camp Redemption

where you meet Jesus face to face.

Now all they need is a 'work will set you free' sign.

[smirkymonkey]

9. Arbeit Macht Frei...

ring any bells?

[Fovea]

10. Indeed it does.

I figured an English equivalent would stress the lurking freepers less...

[smirkymonkey]

13. They probably think it means

Cheeseburger and Freedom Fries or some such thing! :)

[jeff30997]

4. I thought it was supposed to be called Camp Reagan!

What a world we live in...:evilgrin:

[myopic4141]

5. I am begining to worry that God is getting senile.

Maybe God has been around a little too long and is getting senile. Just look at the individual anointed by God to be the President of the US. It is either that or God does not think very highly of the position let alone the country it governs. One would have thought that for such an exalted position, God would have picked someone who was not a self made intellectual eunuch. An individual intellectually castrated via a lack of intellectual curiosity. At a minimum, God could have chosen someone who was a person of faith rather than a religious person who has no faith in the tenets of the professed religion. Instead, Shrubby was selected to be in charge. Shrubby follows neither the tenets of his chosen religion or that of God's chosen countries Constitution. Implied in that is that Shrubby has no faith in either which does not bode well for God's choosing ability. Unless of course, God is really pissed off at the US which makes one wonder just what sin against God was committed to deserve such wrath. Hopefully it is something that can be straightened out before matters get worse. It cannot be all that bad since Shrubby's apologists claim that God has blessed this country and anointed the leadership. Under the current circumstances, God bless America a taken on a whole new meaning of what it is to be blessed. It is a lot like the Jews being the chosen people where they wish God would choose someone else for a while. Since God is not know for making errors in decisions, then this purposeful selection must to to see what we as a nation does when such a abject person reaches the pinnacle of leadership positions. If that is the case, the nation as a whole is failing miserably in its response to God's test. That is sure to piss God off even more. It should be very interesting to see who God picks next time if this is not done correctly.

[Mnemosyne]

7. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, need I say more???

Did they seriouly rename it that?

[myopic4141]

12. Rename what what?

[Mnemosyne]

16. camp redemption

abu gharib

[izzie]

6. Well yar and all the 'city on the hill' business.

We had a man that did that. Boston was the 'city on the hill' and it was a little country run by this man as a church/state. They did things like got rid of Quakers, only let you live within 4 miles of a church, as far as a person could walk twice on Sunday, That is why we have the Second' church etc. The rules were very interesting. Only church members could run the town. You can look up the old list of these people. Most could read as you had to . How else could you use the Bible? John Winthrop was the founder and he paid for 4 ships to come over. They were Puritans. Also read about Cromwell in England. Anyone that wants a Church/state has got to be out of their mind. Calvin also did it. None worked for very long. It always ends up you must be their type just as the Talban did.

[mongo]

17. But the puritans came seeking Freedom of Religion...

Freedom to oppress others according to the tenets of their religion

[EdGy]

8. the site seems to be down.

n/t

[seemslikeadream]

11. Moon crowned in Senate building (no hoax)

Moon crowned in Senate building (no hoax)

http://www.gorenfeld.net/blog/2004/05/im-and-i-approve-this-messiah.ht...








http://gadflyer.com/articles/?ArticleID=131

Should Americans be concerned that on March 23rd a bipartisan group of Congressmen attended a coronation at which a billionaire, pro-theocracy newspaper owner was declared to be the Messiah – with royal robes, a crown, the works? Or that this imperial ceremony took place not in a makeshift basement church or a backwoods campsite, but in a Senate office building?

Some of the guest list:

Cut to the ritual. Eyes downcast, a man identified as Congressman Danny K. Davis (D-Ill.) is bringing a crown, atop a velvety purple cushion, to a figure who stands waiting austerely with his wife. Now Moon is wearing robes that Louis XIV would have appreciated. All of this has quickly been spliced into a promo reel by Moon's movement, which implies to its followers that the U.S. Congress itself has crowned the Washington Times owner.

But Section 9 of the Constitution forbids giving out titles of nobility, setting a certain tone that might have made the Congressional hosts shy about celebrating the coronation on their websites. They included conservatives, the traditional fans of Moon's newspaper: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA.), Rep. Chris Cannon (R-Utah), Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R-Md.) and Republican strategy god Charlie Black, whose PR firm represents Ahmed Chalabi’s Iraqi National Congress. But there were also liberal House Democrats like Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) and Davis. Rep. Harold Ford (D-Tenn.) later told the Memphis Flyer that he'd been erroneously listed on the program, but had never heard of the event, which was sponsored by the Washington Times Foundation.

[drfemoe]

15. can't find the photos on that site ..

have you seen this one? >>
http://www.perkel.com/politics/moonies/index.htm

[amjsjc]

14. Might as well call it the ministry of love n/t

[horrifiedheartlander]

18. THEOCRACY in America

The following link will generate the ground breaking article by Katherine Yurica on the long standing crusade to engrave theocracy in our body politic: THE DESPOILING OF AMERICA

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5646.htm

[ThoughtCriminal]

19. Worst Doomsday Cult - Ever

Most of them just drink the Kool-Aid and go away. This one wants to make sure we all go along for the ride and has the tool to make it happen.