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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:38 PM
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Losing Control
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Now we all know that, depending on what rumors or denials you care to believe, Secretary of State Colin Powell and his Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage either are (or are not) going to stay for a Bush second term (should there be one, of course). And the United States either is (or is not) going to dun Israel's loan guarantees because of "the Fence." According to Nathan Guttman and Aluf Benn in the Israeli paper Ha'aretz, Colin Powell yesterday commented "in a broadcast to the Arab world,"

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So Colin Powell is definitively staying and the neocons are making a mad rush for the position of Secretary of State. (Can you really imagine Wolfowitz of Arabia in that position? Or Newt Gingrich?) In a piece in Asia Times, Jim Lobe of suggests some of the chaos and in-fighting that threatens constantly to burst out of the confines of what previously may have been the most secretive and secrecy-mad administration in our history. And Maureen Dowd, in a spirited column in The New York Times, describes the neocon campaign to capture State.

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At the moment it's almost as if this administration is flushing its secret idiocies out into the open like so many quail. Just in the last few days, for instance, Joseph Wilson, the ex-ambassador who carried out a visit to Niger to check the uranium sale story for the CIA (under the prodding of the vice president), again had a thing or two to say. In what evidently was a response to his embarrassing public statements on who should have known what about the forgeries, his wife Valerie Plame seems to have been outed as a CIA agent by people within the administration itself. Yesterday, Wilson responded, reports Ken Sengupta of the British Independent.

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n her column, Dowd suggests that the definitive step in neocon planning of the moment is: "Change the subject. Next stop, North Korea." So I include as my final entry of the day, an op-ed from The Wall Street Journal, written by ex-CIA director R. James Woolsey in conjunction with former lieutenant-general and present-day Fox military analyst Thomas G. McInerney. (Generals are now like those football coaches who go from the field directly into the press box to provide play-by-play on their former teams and their opponents). The piece is entitled, coincidentally (and charmingly) enough, "The Next Korean War," and, coming from the man who announced in the prewar months that we were already in "World War IV," it should set your heart racing and make your blood run cold.

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http://www.motherjones.com/news/dailymojo/2003/33/we_525_01a.html
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-11-03 11:43 PM
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1. Next stop North Korea?
God help us.
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:15 AM
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2. you know

in the PNAC rebuilding of America's defensese the draft talks about simultaneous theatrical war stagings...

so far we have two or three (if somalia counts we are still there I think) - I only hope they are playing nuclear chicken, here both N.K. and Iran seem to have made clear that they will not take a preemptive strike sitting down. so if NK does have nukes pointed at california and these nuts (the pentagon) decides to push the envelop they better knock out those nukes pointed here... same goes for Iran... there is speculation that Iran has the H-Bomb however, it is hard to know for sure... so far it seems the concensus is they have nuclear weapons perhaps but not the bomb... Gee I guess that means we'll take our chances.

it's insane what these guys are doing...
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Wonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 12:17 AM
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3. oh I forgot

the point of the article seemed to be that the spins are coming so fast and furious at this point it is very difficult to know what is up... ergo the title LOSING CONTROL... in and of itself it could be a bad sign... might make them even more trigger happy... unless america starts to show some outward public disobedience... like what about OUTRAGE?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-12-03 01:13 AM
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4. But Bush WANTS NK to Nuke California
He thinks the bombs will kill mostly Democrats.


:scared::nuke:
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