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Bill USA Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:51 PM
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Pres. Obama is 'down' because of the poor showing for Dems in mid-terms?
Everybody in the media is conversing about how the PResident is chastened and subdued over the midterm elections. I wonder if the President realizes why he is really down. I will advance a hypothesis. I don't think Obama would be down if the elections had gone badly based on the electorate actually choosing the opposition's ideas as preferable to his policies. If the people chose the party and policies they preferred and they didn't choose your's, that is a reality and that you just have to accept. IT's an unalterable fact.

But is that what happened? Did people make knowledgeable and informed choices? Or did this election turn on so much disinformation?

In exit polls two thirds said their biggest concern was the economy. And they voted against Dems because they thought Obama wasn't doing good enough with the economy and Republicans could do better? Really?? No kidding?

_____ Well, I wonder how many were aware that the First stimulus was downsized by a third in order to keep the Republicans from filibustering it and delaying or killing any stimulus?

_____ How many knew the GOP filibustered, en masse, every stimulus bill and every unemployment extension bill.

_____ How many knew the GOP filibustered and delayed, for several months, the Small Business Aid bill, which by the way, was paid for. It was revenue neutral. It would NOT add to the deficit WHICH THE REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN USING AS AN EXCUSE TO FIGHT ALL STIMULUS SPENDING?

_____ How many remembered that the Republicans stated their intention was to cause Obama and the Dems to fail at everything they tried to do?

Now, in light of these facts, if people are evaluating Obama's performance on the economy, how could anybody conclude they could trust the Republicans with more power in Congress? And moreover, this is without considering that it was their policies of anti-regulation and regressive taxes that brought down the economy??? Unless they completely forgot the Bush administration, how could people conclude the Republicans could do better with the economy?

Then there is the "change the direction in which Obama is taking the country" myth. This goes back to the old 'Health Care Reform as socialism' fantasy. For Obama, or any rational person, this kind of thinking is difficult to deal with. How do you address seriously, this kind of hysterical, childish nonsense? It's difficult to believe anybody could be so delusional as to believe this, and ignore the facts, unless they are making a decision to 'check out' on reality. And as far as the economic steps taken, Obama hardly had a choice. They were extraordinary measures taken to avert complete economic disaster. Effective government, responsive to the needs of the people, is something the Corporate Lobbyists have to cast as something threatening and scary. Corporations must not be constrained by considerations of social responsibility or even long term economic common sense, according to the GOP.

Certainly nobody likes to lose an election, but is Obama 'down' because the mid-term elections went against his party, or is he down because of the utter idiocy of how people voted and the incredible success of the GOP's campaign of disinformation? If people disagree with you and know what they are doing, that's one thing. But people running back into a burning building to escape the flames is quite another.





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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:52 PM
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1. He needs to make friends with the Us Cof C...That'll do it....n/t
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 07:56 PM
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2. Bookmarked for careful study later
Also, K & R!
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:10 PM
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3. great points. I know personally.. I am "down" b/c of the
idiocy. People do not know what they just did. Especially thinking of my State of Ohio.... We just elected a Lehman Brothers exec to the Governorship and a Bush trade & budget guy for Senator... arggg....
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 08:12 PM
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4. I never believed I would say this, but he should have grown some balls when
dealing with those self-righteous repugs
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:33 PM
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6. +100
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 10:15 PM
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5. On NPR they interviewed some people after they voted
There were 3 voters who voted straight repub, and they had voted for Obama. Their reason, because Obama promised change and he and the dems didn't deliver, so they voted repub to send a message. The message....if you don't do your job and what you promised, we will vote for the other guy.

zalinda
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Bill USA Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:26 PM
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7.  and I'm sure they didn't know the stuff I stipulated: filibustering every stimulus bill and
weakening the ARRA. But most asinine of all, they voted for the guys who created the disaster that OBama has been trying to fix.. while all along the GOP were undermining his efforts every inch of the way.

Obama should have spoken loud and often about the GOP's Political gamesmanship and economic terrorism. In fighting every stimulus bill - to cause Obama and dems to fail at fixing the disaster the GOP created, the GOP were making the economy and the livelihoods of millions of Americans collateral damage in their war with the Dems. I personally believe if Obama had spoken with passion (i.e. anger) about this, the election could have turned out differently.

Probably 98% of the voters didn't even know the Republicans even filibustered (for several months) the Small Business Aid bill - which was revenue neutral - that is it did not add to the deficit. Obama did not do a good enough job getting this out to the people. He needed to push this hard because the corporate media (television) were not informing people of the repetitive instances of the GOP making good their avowed objective of making sure Obama failed (by avowed, I mean they publicly stated it). While the GOP constantly was demonizing Obama, Pelosi etc Obama refrained from hitting the GOP on this abject political gamesmanship.

Acting repeatedly to undermine the stimulus was certainly news but whenever the Corporate media reported on the economy and how Obama was doing you would come away with the impression that Obama and the Democrats were the only people in Government in DC. The Republicans were not a factor at all in Obama's succcess of failure in fixing the Republlican's Trickle Down Disaster - so watching M$M would leave you thinking.



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