Meet The Press Is A Joke

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by jbou
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/11/14/920502/-Meet-The-Press-Is-A-Joke

So I am bored so I tune into Meet the Press and they are discussing the Catfood Commission. Fine, but the people discussing it all believe that SS is going broke and all of them believe that there is a budget problem. None of them want to address our medical costs and the gouging of our society by insurance companies. Instead we have a corporate moderate, Harold Ford, a Randite former Fed Chair, Alan Greenspan, A moronic right wing hack, Newt Gingrich and some author I have never heard of and the moronic host, Daivd Gregory and all of them think the same way about the issue. How is this a conversation? This is an agreement and all of them are talking about how we need to act.

This is pure propaganda put on by GE who stands to make a lot of money if we privatize SS, because GE does a ton of business in the financial investment market.

We really are fucked.

BTW, no one cares about the deficit. Check out this post election poll.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/14/no-really-nobody-cares-about-the-deficit/

The Catfood commission sucks.

It’s no mystery what has happened on the deficit commission: as so often happens in modern Washington, a process meant to deal with real problems has been hijacked on behalf of an ideological agenda. Under the guise of facing our fiscal problems, Mr. Bowles and Mr. Simpson are trying to smuggle in the same old, same old — tax cuts for the rich and erosion of the social safety net.

Good fucking god Newt is such and asshole. He actually said government employees are some sort of entitled class! This man is out of his fucking mind!!!

Alan Greenspan is thought of as smart, but he really is just an ideological talking point machine wrapped up in complete bullshit.

Bond Market crisis. Is it real or is it something we are being fed to get us to follow what the catfood commission recommends?

and now a commercial about retirement investing, and now a word from an oil company and I figure we will see another one about investing. We all now who pays the bills. Look, the EVo 4g, sweet. Newt is going to run in 2012 and that is funny.

[OHdem10]

1. Do they believe it or are they promoting a narrative which gives

them the Social Security Fund to use to pay off the
deficit. There are more than one way to look at issues.

[KoKo]

8. What the OP LEFT OUT was the interview with David Axelrod..who was there to Defend our President!

Trashing Gregory (Dancing with Rove) for this skirts around and leaves out what Obama Spokesperson and Campaign Manager, David Axelrod REPLIED in answer to Gregory's Questions on "Press the Meat!"

Here ...if you want to see how Axelrod spoke for Democrats in this interview:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x522036

INQUIRING DEM MINDS LIKE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE...and not just how "PRESS THE MEAT! asks inane questions and fails to interview Liberals. Gregory gave Axelrod ample time to COUNTERPOINT...(and I'm no fan of "Dancing with Rove" for BIG MONEY GREGORY. BUT, Gregory DID ASK QUESTIONS that many of us Dems want to know of Obama's Chief Spokesperson after this DISASTER ELECTION!


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x522036

[xxqqqzme]

2. I have never watched 'Meet the Press'

but how can it be so named if there is only one 'press'?

[louis-t]

3. I watched about a minute of it.

Made me sick. I turned on 'The Nanny' instead.

[bahrbearian]

4. Bored , I was scared out of my wits

Newt, Greenspan, Jarold Ford(DLC) All cheerleading the tax cuts and cutting SS

[molly77]

7. DLC likes Harold Ford

He can't win an election but he can be a democratic spokesperson. Even if Howard Dean were allowed on the Sunday shows, he would be interrupted and talked over repeatedly. State media is too boring for words.

[KoKo]

9. Ummm...David Axelrod was the Premier Interview...You didn't want to listen to fellow Dem?

Obama's Campaign Manager? You tuned him out? WHY? Why would you do that?

[jillan]

5. MTP has got to be the worst out of the Sunday talk shows.

Even Scheiffer does a better job than Gregory, and that's not saying much.

[NICO9000]

6. Gregory, Ford, Greenspan & Gingrich...

...all rich guys who won't have to worry about living on SS during their golden years. For the slimy Newt creature to disparage government employees is laughable since I'm sure he's still sucking off the govt teat for his misadventures as a congress critter. I'm sure Gregory didn't bother to bring up that little hypocrisy. It's sickening that the MSM has decided that this prick (Newtie boy) is some kind of voice that needs to be heard after his disgraceful career helping to fuck this country up. This just shows how the media has become Faux News-lite. Pardon me while I barf now:

:puke:

[KoKo]

10. David Axelrod was his main interview. You didn't watch? Here:

November 14, 2010
My wrap-up of Axelrod, McCain and an Economic Round Table

The economy was the story this week as the president wrapped up his ten-day trip to Asia where he faced international resistance to some of his biggest goals of the visit . He now returns home to deal with domestic opposition as Republicans push for an extension of the Bush-era tax cuts.

Axelrod

This morning I sat down with President Obama’s top advisor, David Axelrod, in his first interview since the Democrats midterm losses. The president's trip abroad has been ripe for criticism after the U.S. failed to secure a free trade agreement with South Korea and a G 20 document that has been criticized for being weak and vague.

I asked Axelrod about how the two failed trade deals will affect the U.S. economy and the Obama agenda in the coming months. Could the Dems midterm loses have hurt the president's influence abroad? He told me that was not the case and cited that American companies will get $10 billion in business and 50,000 jobs as a result of the president's trip.



Mr. Axelrod was also in the news recently for an interview with The Huffington Post titled, “White House Gives in on Bush Tax Cuts.” President Obama later downplayed the story, but we discussed just how much the Obama administration is ready to negotiate with the Republicans when they come into power in the House in January. He said the president stands strong in his belief of extending the tax cuts for middle class Americans.

"The middle class has taken a beating in this last decade. They’ve seen their incomes decline. And-- they’ve born the brunt of this recession." He continued, " But we can’t afford to borrow another $700 billion to pay for tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires."

Though, when I asked him to comment on whether or not the administration would cut a deal with Congressional republicans to extend the upper-class tax cuts temporarily so middle-class tax breaks could be passed before the January deadline, he would not comment. He told me, "David, we’re looking forward to sitting down with leaders of both parties and talking about those issues. I’m not gonna negotiate that with you here." See our exchange below.

http://www.davidgregorytv.com/blog/2010/11/the-economy-was-the-story-this-week-as-the-presidentwrapped-up-histen-day-trip-to-asiawhere-he-faced-international-resistance.html

[ProudDad]

11. Last I heard, Axelrod doesn't wield the veto pen...

Plausible deniability..."Well, we tried our best" (on the latest giveaway to the rich)...

[ProudDad]

12. Interesting poll

Shows the incredible cognitive disconnect that's been imprinted into the USAmerican sheeple...

They just can't recognize what a drain on the economy wars and the "Permanent War Economy(tm)" really are...

[skepticscott]

15. I'm not even sure it's a disconnect

Most Americans are so uninformed and uneducated about economics in general, that they can't think about the issue at all. I'd be willing to bet that if you polled a bunch of people on the street, and asked them what the national debt was (not the amount, but what it represented), most wouldn't even be able to tell you.

[ProudDad]

18. You've got that right...

Just for grins and giggles, here are some of the current numbers:

Dollars are in Trillions, mostly for FY2009

Expenses = Total less Medical and Social Security
Actual Expenses = $2.165 Trillion (2,165,000,000,000 dollars)

Expenses for WAR
$782B direct war expenses
$187B "interest" I'd estimate 80% for war (Carter/Raygun buildup to Iraq/Afg. present) = 150B war interest
$437B "other mandatory" With CIA, Fatherland Security and other boondoggles approx 20% for war = 88B war Other Exp.

Total war = 1.020 Trillion Dollars
Total war pct = 47% (at least)


Actual Deficit
Actual Operating Receipts: 2.105 - 991 (medical/SS) = 1.114 Trillion in Actual Receipts
Actual Operating Deficit = 1.051 Trillion

Social Security 2008: 805B in - 625B out = 180B surplus (that the phonies used to offset REAL deficit)





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Now here's the REAL elephant in the room!!!



This is why we MUST join the rest of the civilized world and get the profit out of medical care...Single-Payer or Improved and Enhanced Medicare for All...to CONTROL the "excess cost growth" part of these curves...

There's NO WAY we can afford the costly for-profit sick care system...

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But even more importantly USAmericans must decide whether they want to be a community where each helps the other out or not. This experiment with the bankrupt idea of a loose collection of freebooting pirates voluntarily deciding on charity when it suits them cannot be sustained.

[alp227]

13. i'm watching the show online right now; the author's name is Bethany McLean

McLean is a contributing editor to Vanity Fair magazine who's written a lot about the Enron scandal. (Read her Wikipedia entry.) So apparently McLean isn't as liberal as her credentials suggest if she conceded with the rest of the pro-corporate roundtable guests.

[lunasun]

19. is she an expert on the bond markets????

she sure "seemed" to act like it- kept wondering that .....
....and Ford is supposed to be there as a rep for democrats view??? or is he there as some corp. rep??
Can not believe his comments or hers were to represent anything different than Newt's .

Greenspan - didnt he fuck up enough already and even admit it re: subprime mkt? Why is he the guru that will save our $$ future??? he already helped flush it away but nod yes to everything he sez

FYI : I too turned on MTP when all these 4 heads were shaking yes in agreement on everything they spoke of, so it is possible that the OP was the same as me only seeing a part of the show ( not catching Axlerod).

As for the segment I saw my opinion is this>
WTF we really are down to monoopinion political discussion shows!!! Was this a Soviet Union flasback or what?
That host is soooo plastic and scripted . I rarely watch Sunday talks - any network anymore - used to check in ; now rarely, and look what I got when I did this week -puke fest

The McLaughlin Group/PBS(saturday here) may be quirky but it doesn't feel like they are reading a script...reciting a rhetoric perhaps, but at least there seems to really be different views.

[travelingtypist]

14. TV SoundOff: Sunday Talking Heads

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/14/tv-soundoff-sunday-talkin_26_n_783222.html

MEET THE PRESS

Okay! On today's MEET THE PRESS, we have lots of guests! Specifically: John McCain and Alan Greenspan and Newt Gingrich and Harold Ford, Jr.!

(pauses)

You know what? No. Fuck that.

[Enthusiast]

16. K&R

The entire media is a fucking joke.

[cjbgreen]

17. David Gregory was never a reporter

When you think about the media, the ratio of progressive news reporting to corporate spin is limited to MSNBC, only available on cable and MSNBC offers limited progressive programming. MSNBC also suspended Keith O. and fired Donahue. In my city there are four right wing radio stations and one progressive radio station. Amy Goodman offers real investigative reporting and international news, but she is not on any major cable networks. International news is almost non-existent on any network. I am not aware of any major candidate for congress or the senate discussing the impact of war on our economy or advocating to pull out. Shocking and depressing!

Back to David Gregory and the lasting image I have of DG dancing with Karl Rove and Bush's man crush on DG which seemed obvious whenever he called on Gregory in press conferences.. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x140465

[BetsysGhost]

20. MTP a joke?

have you had a good look at David Gregory :spray: Now that's funny!

[yurbud]

21. When you appoint a fossilized pile of conservative cowshit like Alan Simpson

as co-chair, do you really expect to get a result that will help the general public and not exclusively the rich?

[olegramps]

22. When Gregory signed on I signed out.