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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:17 PM
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Weekend Economists' Turkey Day November 25th, 2010
Oh ye of little faith! Did ye think ye might get a day off from the dismal science?

Not a chance, pals. We are in this economy to the death, and beyond.

But today is a day to express thanks. I am sure that each of us can think of some little thing (maybe for Roland's family, not so little) to give thanks for.

I'll start. Thank the goddess somebody edited that horrible book (as in, threw out half of it) and made a really good film out of it. I refer of course to my current passion, the Harry Potter series, which started out nice and tightly edited, but as the billions mounted, the publisher gave Rowling free rein (that R-E-I-N, everybody, as in horses running out of control) and the last several books are much the worse for it. The final book is pretty much unreadable. But this new film is good--although I believe there may be continuity problems between #6 and #7, due to the fact that previous films edited out way too much material. I will have to revisit the whole series to be sure....next time I have an entire day to devote to my hobbyhorse...

And thank goodness I have two working vehicles, as my friend and neighbor had two non-working vehicles, and needed to borrow one.

And thank goodness the Kids are both well and reasonably happy, we all have a roof over our heads, food, pets and work.

If you have something you would like to share, put it here...it can even be related to economics!
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:18 PM
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1. First in!
:hi:
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:21 PM
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3. Happy TDay, Tansy!
How is it at the fair?
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:02 PM
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9. No fairs until the week-end -- one Sat., another Sun.
Today I'm workin'!

One batch of cookies done, gettin' ready to start the second.

Dinner ready to go in the oven, too. (Chicken for me 'n' the critterkids 'cause a turkey's too much).

Tables washed and dryin' in the sun so I can pack 'em in the car for Saturday's show.

And fightin' the good fight for sanity in my own thread! :evilgrin:


How's the weather up by you? I hope if it's bad that at least you don't have to drive too far in it!



TG, in sunny Arizona
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:15 PM
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12. The Weather? Now THERE'S a Story
It rained all night...which is better than snow. And it rained pretty hard.

And because Thursday is paper day, it was raining when I woke. I woke 1.5 hours late, because someone had screwed up the clock radio. When I got to the depot, I had to call for reinforcements from the Younger Kid: the papers were larger than the largest Sunday issue I've ever handled and I couldn't fit them all in the car. They barely fit in the bag, and needed to be double bagged, because of the weather. This took 2 hours, or twice the regular Sunday bagging time.

By the time the papers were bagged, it had stopped raining, which was better. And my neighbor gave me the use of her empty garage to bag in, since mine is still full of flooring and stuff...so it could have been worse. I finished at 9 AM after having to call for more papers, as I was short a considerable number...it started raining again at that point. The forecast is for snow tonight and tomorrow, with an inch accumulation, but it's 40+F and foggy today.

I am grateful that Thanksgiving only comes once a year!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:21 PM
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2. There will be a new WEE thread tomorrow night
I believe the markets will be open tomorrow, and Ozy will put forth his usual glorious matitudinal effort, and we will pick it up from there.

No banks failed, no special event planned, just a time of quiet reflection.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:35 PM
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18. "Matitudinal"? Hmmm. I think that's one o' them werds that'll get you
into the next round of the spelling bee!




Tansy Gold, who dearly dearly loves words
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 05:15 PM
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22. I Hope I Used It Correctly
Spelling on this keyboard is strictly optional....Some of the keys don't work right. then there's my fingers, several of which need glasses or replacement...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:33 PM
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4. 3 Things You Can Do to Keep the Deficit Fearmongers From Looting Social Security
http://www.alternet.org/story/148974/3_things_you_can_do_to_keep_the_deficit_fearmongers_from_looting_social_security

Today's Washington Post has punch two of a one-two punch. Punch one was the Simpson/Bowles "plan" to cut Social Security, cut middle-class tax breaks and programs (and dramatically cut taxes on the rich.) Punch two is pushing this plan hard with headlines claiming this solution is actually popular, while shutting out voices who explain why we shouldn't do this. This is full-on Shock Doctrine, wait for an emergency like the terrible recession so people are in shock and want solutions, and then change everything so fast they can’t respond while telling them how this is good for them.

This is how they do it, folks, demonstrated by this story in today's Washington Post: Consensus is forming on what steps to take in cutting the deficit:

After an election dominated by vague demands for less debt and smaller government, the sacrifices necessary to achieve those goals are coming into sharp focus. ... Smaller Social Security checks and higher Medicare premiums. <. . .> the plan unveiled this month by co-chairmen Erskine B. Bowles ... and Alan K. Simpson ... has been respectfully received with a few exceptions by both parties. Its major elements are also winning support from a striking line-up of commentators. <. . .> The strange bedfellows are a "testament to the moderate nature" of the ideas under discussion.


Consensus? Sharp focus? Here's your "sharp focus": The public hates this!

That headline is the manufactured reality. The real reality is that the public just hates this, and has voted against and will vote against politicians who push it...POLLS CITED...I can continue citing poll after poll; there are no polls that show the public is in any way behind this.

It's Clear: The public hates this and will vote out any politician who does this. If you think the public didn’t like the bailouts and the politicians who voted for them, this "Deficit Commission" plan to cut Social Security is the other shoe dropping. Bailouts helped Wall Street and not Main Street and people certainly didn't like that. But this is paying for bailing out Wall Street by hitting Main Street in the gut. And the public understands this.

But here is today's reality: the public hates this, and the corporate media tells you how much you love it. This is how it's done. You have heard the stories of FDR and LBJ saying "make me do it," meaning create the public pressure that forces politicians to do act. This is a story of manufacturing consent where the elites, the Peterson Foundation, the President and the corporate right are setting up an appearance of making them do it. (We have a jobs emergency, but we get deficit commissions instead of jobs commissions?)

Take Action!Do this: November 30 National Call Congress Day: Hands Off Social Security,

The Co-Chairs of the National Fiscal Commission have proposed carving up Social Security like a Thanksgiving turkey. They want to increase the retirement age to 69 – making us work longer, deeply cut benefits for middle-class workers and reduce annual Cost of Living Adjustments. We need your help to stop them!

Join thousands of Americans in a National Call Congress Day on Tuesday, November 30—CAN WE COUNT ON YOU?

We need your voice to be heard!

Click here to make the “Count on Me” pledge to add your voice on Tuesday, November 30 and TELL CONGRESS – DON’T CUT OUR SOCIAL SECURITY!

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/6405/t/7559/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2753
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:45 PM
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5. Debt Vultures Shot for Chanukah By Greg Palast
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/6696/debt_vultures_shot_for_chanukah

Yesterday, the financial vultures, the carcass-chewers who were preying on the dirt-poor African nation of Liberia, gave up...

Refresher: In February, for BBC Television Newsnight and In These Times, our team hunted down a predator with a Ph.D., Dr. Eric Hermann, who, for a couple pennies on the dollar, secretly bought the right to collect a $6 million debt owed by Liberia.

Hermann and his flock of vulture partners demanded Liberia pay $43 million—a devastating sum for that nation—or he would, in effect, block aid funding for that nation’s recovery from civil war. The nation was now Hermann’s economic hostage.

I was investigating the strange links between Hermann and a company named Hamsah Investments; it smelled of fraud. Tipped off that I was about to arrive with a camera crew to question Hermann about this, his giant hedge fund operation in Harrison, N.Y., unbolted the company signs from the office building wall, locked their office doors and required their staff to hide inside in silence....

And I am happy to report: Vulture tastes like chicken.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:48 PM
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6. In Indiana, Obama touts success of auto industry bailout
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/23/AR2010112302916.html?wpisrc=nl_politics

WE JUST HAVE DIFFERING DEFINITIONS OF "SUCCESS"--AND CHRYSLER IS STILL ON THE ROCKS...

Obama said each of the Big Three automakers - General Motors, Ford and Chrysler - has gained market share compared to foreign counterparts for the first time in more than a decade.

"We're coming back. We're on the move. All three American companies are profitable, and they are growing," Obama said to applause. "So here's the lesson: don't bet against America. Don't bet against the American auto industry. Don't bet against American ingenuity. Don't bet against the American worker. Do not bet against us."
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:53 PM
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7. Crisis in Ireland Tests Eurozone Vision of Common Currency, Common Interests
http://www.truth-out.org/crisis-ireland-tests-eurozone-vision-common-currency-common-interests65400


When the euro was launched 11 years ago, it was celebrated as the culmination of a vision of postwar Europe that was erasing borders and dismantling its nationalistic past. It was heralded as a great unifier of nations with common interests and equally cherished values.

But a series of financial crises is shaking Europe’s core and raising fresh questions about its single currency as well as the solidarity of a union whose cooperation and stability date to the aftermath of World War II.

From the Greek financial disaster earlier this year, to an Irish bank debt crisis that has pushed Ireland to accept up to $120 billion in bailout funds, Europe is struggling to rescue a currency so closely linked to its unity that German Chancellor Angela Merkel recently said, "If the euro fails, Europe fails."

MORE
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 02:59 PM
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8. Michael Moore: How Corporate America Is Pushing Us All Off a Cliff
Edited on Thu Nov-25-10 03:00 PM by Demeter
http://www.alternet.org/story/148931/how_corporate_america_is_pushing_us_all_off_a_cliff_

...APCO was hatched in 1984 as a subsidiary of the Washington, D.C. law firm Arnold & Porter -- best known for its years of representing the giant tobacco conglomerate Philip Morris. APCO set up fake "grassroots" organizations around the country to do the bidding of Big Tobacco. All of a sudden, "normal, everyday, in-no-way-employed-by-Philip Morris Americans" were popping up everywhere. And it turned out they were outraged -- outraged! -- by exactly the things APCO's clients hated (such as, the government telling tobacco companies what to do). In particular, they were "furious" that regular people had the right to sue big corporations...you know, like Philip Morris. (For details, see the 2000 report "The CALA Files" (PDF) by my friends and colleagues Carl Deal and Joanne Doroshow.)

Right about now you may be wondering: how many Americans get pushed off a cliff by Big Tobacco every year? The answer is 443,000 Americans die every year due to smoking. That's a big cliff.

With this success under their belts, APCO created "The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition." TASSC, funded partly by Exxon, had a leading role in a planned campaign by the fossil fuel industry to create doubt about global warming. The problem for Big Oil speaking out against global warming, according to the campaign's own leaked documents, was that the public could see the "vested interest" that oil companies had in opposing environmental laws. APCO's job was to help conceal those oil company interests.

And boy, have they ever succeeded. Polls now show that, as the world gets hotter, Americans are getting less and less worried about it...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:07 PM
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10. This Holiday Season, Give the Gift of Legal Aid for Foreclosure Victims

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/11/23/this-holiday-season-give-the-gift-of-legal-aid-for-foreclosure-victims/

In Georgia, homeowners have alleged fraud and racketeering in a suit against document processor Prommis Solutions, MERS, Wells Fargo, Bank of America Home Loans, several real estate law firms and almost two dozen defendants in all. The suit alleges that Prommis and the others manufactured documents to speed along foreclosures. The lead couple in the case, the Crawford family of Marietta, asked Georgia Attorney General Thurbert Baker (D) to investigate Prommis, who have been heavily involved in document fraud in the past, but he claimed that the investigation would be outside his jurisdiction.

Georgia is not a judicial foreclosure state, which makes it even harder for this class-action suit to advance. The homeowners claim that the banks have not proven the right to foreclose on their homes, but they’re up against significant legal firepower. Here’s the attorney in the case:

Ebony Ameen, the attorney who filed the suit, said the defendants “took advantage of the nonjudicial foreclosure system in Georgia.”

Ameen said similar practices were likely used in thousands of metro Atlanta foreclosures. The scope of alleged problems goes beyond negligence or mistakes, she said.

“It has to make you wonder, ‘what’s going on here,?’” Ameen said.


There’s no question this is happening in every state in the nation, and yet only the 23 judicial foreclosure states have a definitive venue for them. And that venue, such as with Florida’s “rocket docket,” is more of a hurdle to homeowners seeking justice than anything.

There are definitely cracks in the armor. MERS has been ruled ineligible to foreclose in several cases in numerous states. Dogged foreclosure defense attorneys have won significant judgments for their clients. There’s the securitization fail by Countrywide, which could set off a round of lawsuits and attempts by investors to put back bad securities on the banks. The US Trustee’s Office intervened in two recent bankruptcy cases, rendering an opinion that the banks had no standing to foreclose on borrowers in default. There are means at the disposal of borrowers.

But they have to have solid legal representation to do so. A few days ago, Matt Taibbi laid this out.

Also, lastly, I hear today from the lawyers at JALA, the Jacksonville Legal Aid office whose excellent work I profiled in the piece, that their offices are going to be losing three attorneys in January due to a budgetary shortfall. This organization needs donations to survive (as do legal aid offices all around the country), and here’s why this matters; most of the people who are being foreclosed upon actually have ways to fight back if they can get legal representation. The problem is that offices like JALA have a finite number of attorneys, and so are forced to turn back people who come knocking asking for legal help. Each additional attorney, then, can keep dozens of people in their homes. I strongly suggest that anyone who has extra funds give if they can to local legal aid offices in their states, or even JALA in particular (their donation info can be found at www.jaxlegalaid.org), because this right now is crunch time and a little money can go a long way to helping stop the foreclosure bleeding. I myself am making a donation today.


This is really important. That $35 million for legal services for foreclosure victims isn’t likely to be appropriated, and the Administration’s efforts are insufficient. I’ve heard multiple stories of legal aid foundations planning to cut back on staff because of budget troubles.

The holidays are coming up. I can’t think of a better gift to give to someone than the opportunity for them to stay in their home. Legal aid foundations need our help. Find one in your area:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=legal+aid+society&aq=1&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=legal+aid+socie&gs_rfai=
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:08 PM
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11. 2nd In!
Edited on Thu Nov-25-10 03:13 PM by Dr.Phool
I gotta keep an eye on Tansy. She's up to no good.

But, in the mean time, it's 80 degrees, the sun is shining, the Bloody Mary's have been flowing, and I'm just laying around listening to X-mas music (Tran-Siberian Orchestra) and waiting to devour a fowl!

And we have tickets in 2 weeks to see Trans-Siberian. If they make it near you. GO! It's Pink Floyd meets Christmas! Good music, stunning lasers and visuals, and pyrotechnics up the wazoo. They managed, last year to turn "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" (Christmas Eve Sarejevo) into a stunning anti war anthem. The first video is last year's Tampa show.

Now go eat your turkey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmSlYrcSsOQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQNirj6lbGY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHioIlbnS_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cP26ndrmtg&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWBjl-jPcVM&feature=channel
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:16 PM
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13. Happy TDay, Doc!
I'm not doing turkey until Sunday, for the condo association. Enjoy your day!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:19 PM
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14. Alan Simpson Calls Seniors "Greediest Generation"
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/357523/alan_simpson_calls_seniors_%22greediest_generation%22/#paragraph9

...Simpson doesn't apparently understand the program that it has been his life's mission to destroy. Collecting Social Security isn't a gift. You pay into it all your life, and then when you get old, you get your turn to collect. But his perspective indicates something even more vile: a belief that people's sole source of income, their very livelihood, is some sort of mass generosity. It isn't. Social Security is a deal. A new sort of deal that didn't exist before FDR created it. Instead of working all your life and then spending your elder years destitute, why not take care of the old people now and then when you get old, you'll get yours. It's a deal, not a handout.

I don't see how you can reach consensus with someone like this. There is no middle ground between people who think Social Security is a government handout and reality. To malign people who have worked their entire lives and kept their end of the bargain, he says to them, essentially "you're beat." You can't negotiate with a guy like that. He doesn't believe in keeping his end of the deal. In fact, there is a word for people who take money and then don't hold up their end of a bargain: a thief. I say it is that person who is truly greedy.

From a link provided by Scarce:

Simpson said he's spent about $25,000 of his own money on travel and hotel expenses on behalf of the debt commission -- an expense he said he doesn't mind paying.

Simpson might appear cynical about politics these days. But he said he hasn't lost heart.

"I really believe that there are more patriots in America than selfish, selfish people," he said.


Can you believe this guy? He's got 25 grand to throw around to go cut your social security, but he says YOU are selfish. Hey Alan, how about you pay some higher tax on all that wealth you have? Then the problem Social Security has 27 years from now will be put off for another 75 years.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:36 PM
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19. Tansy Gold calls Alan Simpson a heartless fuck. n/t
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:25 PM
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15. Voters support constitutional amendment to overturn "Citizens United" decision
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/23/voters-strongly-back-amen_n_787526.html

By a double-digit margin, voters want Congress to amend the Constitution to overturn the Supreme Court decision in Citizens United that allows unlimited corporate spending on elections, a new poll paid for by the Progressive Change Campaign Committee has found.

Nearly a fifth of voters remain undecided on an issue that has only been live since the Supreme Court overturned a century of legislation and precedent in a 5-4 ruling whose effect was visible to anybody with a television through the months of September and October. Of those who have an opinion, 46 percent said that "Congress should consider drastic measures such as a constitutional amendment overturning the recent Supreme Court decision allowing unlimited corporate spending in elections," while 36 percent disagreed. The survey, which was provided to The Huffington Post, was conducted by the liberal-leaning Public Policy Polling on November second and third and reached 548 voters.

A Constitutional amendment requires a two-thirds vote in both chambers of Congress and must be ratified by three-quarters of the states. But, said Rep. Donna Edwards (D-Md.), the author of an amendment that would overturn Citizens United, there have been times in American history when amendments have caught fire and ripped right through the land. "The process is very rigorous, and it should be," Edwards told HuffPost. "But there have been plenty of examples of amendments to the Constitution that have happened, actually, with fairly rapid-fire when they catch on."

Edwards, an attorney, said she wrote the simple text of her amendment the night that Citizens United was handed down. "I really concluded that the Supreme Court actually put the challenge out to us, here in the Congress. They said, you know, you could make a judgment that this is not really good for the system, but the fact is that the Constitution doesn't allow you to regulate this. Congress, you have no-- the Court told us directly-- Congress, you have no authority to regulate. And when the Court says that so directly, it only leaves us one choice," said Edwards...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:27 PM
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16. Public Agrees: Congressmen Who Hate Gov't Health Care Should Give Up Their Own
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/354083/public_agrees%3A_congressmen_who_hate_gov%27t_health_care_should_give_up_their_own/#paragraph4

The idea has been circulating for a while now: why should those new representatives who rode to victory railing against government health care now get to benefit from the (excellent) coverage given to public officials?

So far, only two Republicans have "opted out"-- Bobby Schilling of Illinois and Mike Kelly of Pennsylvania-—but Americans say more should.

According to a new national poll conducted by PPP, a Democratic polling firm, most Americans (55%) agree that those opposed to the program should save the government some much-needed cash and politely decline their benefits. Perhaps most ironically, the 33% of Americans who kindly think these anti-reform legislators should take care of themselves with good quality government health care despite the blatant hypocrisy... are Democrats!

Republicans take a harsher view and want the representatives they presumably chose to live their principles, so to speak. Even if it means massive health care bills...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 03:34 PM
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17. 5 Ways to Deal With Your Conservative Relatives This Thanksgiving
Edited on Thu Nov-25-10 03:35 PM by Demeter
http://www.alternet.org/story/148958/5_ways_to_deal_with_your_conservative_relatives_this_thanksgiving%E2%80%A8%E2%80%A8%E2%80%A8

So how does one deal with the conservatives at the family table while avoiding a massive food fight? Stay calm and relaxed, and follow these simple guidelines.



1. Brush up on Obama conspiracy theories. There’s a good chance you’ll need to defend the president against some of the more outrageous claims being circulated by Fox News--especially the claim that he hasn’t done anything useful for the country. Now, if your relatives are of the “Obama is a Marxist, Satanist, Islamic fundamentalist who wants to put our children in re-education camps” persuasion, you should probably just invest in a hip flask or three and plan on getting out of there ASAP. But assuming you’re dining with nominally reasonable human beings, you should brush up on what the heck Obama has done so far. Conveniently, you can gather some key facts and stats at the Web site What the Heck Has Obama Done So Far (or its raunchier cousin, if that’s more your style). “Yes, cousin Billy, Obama does support our troops; he’s helped provide crucial services like transportation for families of fallen soldiers to Dover air base and counseling for veterans,” you might say. And don’t forget to remember credible sources in case they don’t believe you.



2. Point out the infighting on the Right--and keep yourself out of it. Aunt Daisy’s a big fan of that “spitfire” Sarah Palin, huh? Perhaps just mention that Susan Collins, Aunt Daisy’s very own Republican senator from Maine, thinks Palin is a joke; for the rest of the country, there’s former First Lady Barbara Bush’s recent zinger about how Palin is best left in Alaska. You could go on and on this way: GOP Sen. Richard Lugar thinks Republican stalling on the START treaty is disgraceful, former Republican Rep. Sherwood Boehlert is appalled by all the climate-change denial in the incoming Congressional class. Whatever the issue, there is probably some Republican infighting going on that could test your relatives’ allegiance to party members (just watch your stepmom squirm as she has to choose between supporting Karl Rove or Sarah Palin). Just make sure you stay out of the fray. Sample script: “I’m not saying anything myself, but I think it’s really interesting what X Republican senator had something so trenchant to say about Y Republican darling. What was that all about?”



3. Bring up the Koch brothers. AlterNet’s Adele Stan wrote an article last month about the massive quantities of corporate dollars flowing into the Tea Party movement and funding its activities. As Stan points out, “Though billed as a people's movement, the Tea Party wouldn't exist without a gusher of cash from oil billionaire David H. Koch and the vast media empire of Rupert Murdoch. Many of the small donations to Tea Party candidates have been cultivated by either Fox News Channel, a property of Murdoch's News Corporation, or the Americans for Prosperity Foundation, chaired by Koch. The movement's major organizations are all run, not by first-time, mad-as-hell activists, but by former GOP officials or operatives.” Read the article, memorize its facts, and be ready to blithely drop them into conversation whenever someone mentions the “authentic,” “grassroots” anger of the Tea Partiers. Your relatives might also take offense to the Kochs having sponsored “elitist,” liberal, Northeasterny things like the New York City Ballet; if so, mention freely.



4. Talk TSA gropings. If there’s one issue that pretty much the entire country, conservatives and liberals alike, can agree on, it’s the absurdity of the TSA’s invasive body scanners and “enhanced pat-downs.” Diffuse any tension that may have erupted over dinner (while subtly spreading radical ideas) by inviting everyone to share their TSA horror stories: “What’s the worst airport security experience you’ve ever had?” No one wants to be groped or manhandled, even if we disagree on how to best handle terrorism threats. If you feel safe upping the ante, point out: “We allowed torture and rendition in the name of keeping us safe from terrorists, and no one spoke up, so this latest incarnation of TSA security theater was an inevitability.”



5. Find common ground by pointing out generational differences. Perhaps you’re on the younger side, and your mom is getting uncomfortable with all the red faces among your older relatives. Bring things down a notch for her sake. Shake your head and shrug, and point out that on most major issues of contention, younger people are significantly more liberal-leaning--that’s just the way it is. Let your relatives grumble about that, and change the subject. But you know the subtext of the point you just made: change is coming, whether they like it or not! Now pass the stuffing.
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 04:20 PM
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20. Some of our best family stories.....
have taken place on Thanksgiving. I will tell you one.

We had been renting a house and through a series of unfortunate incidences, lost our rental. My parents could not swing a house but they could afford a mobile home and we found a very nice park. We took delivery several days before Thanksgiving. We got the phone service on but the heat and electricity would be turned on after Thanksgiving. We were looking foreword to our first Thanksgiving in our new home. We were crestfallen when we learned that not only did Mom not have a way to prepare a Thanksgiving dinner, but we were strapped for cash due to the purchase. She said it just might be bologna sandwiches but she promised us we would have a good dinner when we had the power turned on.

Well, she happened to be talking to her best friend in the town we use to live. Now we always said that it was an over site on GOD's part that we weren't actually related. In fact, this woman named Pearl use to introduce my Mom as her other daughter and there are still folks in Ft. Worth that think Mom is Pearl's daughter. Anyway, Mom laughed about the bologna sandwiches and they hung up. This was Wednesday morning.

We unpacked and went to bed. It was cold and we knew we would wake up to a cold breakfast and a cold sandwich. Mom let us sleep late. We woke up to the sound of a horn blasting in our driveway. What idiot we thought and went out to see what the commotion was all about. It was our beloved crazy Pearl and her husband Glen. They had driven all the way down to Houston to see us. But more importantly, Pearl had been up all night cooking us our Thanksgiving dinner, and most of it was still warm. As soon as she got off the phone she decided that there was no way her best friend and her children were doing without a Thanksgiving dinner. We had the best Thanksgiving ever. We had no electricity, no heat but we had our family and dear friends.


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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 04:43 PM
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21. Today I am thankful to be alone
My memories of happy holidays are few, scattered like feeble candles through the gloom The Past. So although I suppose it would be nice to have a family gathering with my kids, their spouses, the grandkids, I cannot say I'm unhappy to be by myself.

I get to choose my menu. I don't have to eat Aunt Gladys' mushy stuffing with Aunt Lola's watery gravy, or take only a tiny scoop of mashed potatoes because Cousin Ruby never makes enough to go around.

I get to eat when I want, not on someone else's schedule. I don't have to wait for relatives to arrive who have already gone to another dinner, nor do I have to rush things so someone can leave to go elsewhere.

I don't have to dress up, don't have to be polite to people I dislike.

There are no football games on the tv.

I may or may not wash the dishes, but at least it won't take me an hour, standing at the sink by myself while everyone else "relaxes."

The dogs are barking at the neighbors and I don't have to tell them to be quiet. The BF would do that, or tell me to, because he'd be watching the football games, but he's not here and I don't care who the dogs bark at.

And if I want to, I can stay on DU all day long. . . ..


Happy Thanksgiving, Everyone!



Tansy Gold, gettin' ready to put the chicken in the oven
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 05:43 PM
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23. Joe Nocera on "All the Devils Are Here: The Hidden History of the Financial Crisis"
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 05:51 PM
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24. When Slogans Attack: US Policy Under Siege US v CHINA by: Paul Krugman, Krugman & Co.
http://www.truth-out.org/when-slogans-attack-us-policy-under-siege65359

I am a bit shocked that so many people around the world are comparing the United States Federal Reserve’s quantitative easing program to China’s currency manipulation.

While America’s policy may annoy its trading partners, they are not the target. China’s policy, on the other hand, is predatory, pure and simple. There is no equivalence....


What we are really witnessing is a worldwide inability to think clearly about economics. In particular, the unconventional nature of the current economic situation is revealing how many people rely not on any model of how the economy works, but rather on what the late economist Paul Samuelson called “shibboleths” — by which he meant slogans that take the place of hard thinking.

The underlying problem afflicting the global economy is simple: we have too much savings and not enough investment....My question for the Very Serious People is this: if deficit spending is unacceptable, then what is your proposal for closing the gap? Must tens of millions of workers remain jobless so that you can feel comfortably orthodox?


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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 05:54 PM
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25. Will Congress Let Jobless Benefits Expire Four Weeks Before Christmas?
http://www.truth-out.org/will-congress-let-jobless-benefits-expire-4-weeks-before-christmas65389

...Unless Congress acts by Nov. 30, an estimated 2 million people slated to receive extended benefits will not get them on time, if ever. And Congress is taking this week (Nov. 22-26) off for a Thanksgiving recess. Congress reconvenes on Nov. 29.

If lawmakers don't extend the benefits, it will be the third time this year that they will have missed a deadline to do so, even though the nation's unemployment rate, at 9.6 percent, hasn't budged since May. Earlier this year, after Congress failed to extend benefits before deadlines, jobless workers got retroactive benefits once legislation was passed.

The average family receives about $290 a week from the benefits, which can last up to 99 weeks, depending on a state's jobless rate. State employer taxes pay for the first 26 weeks. In weeks 27 to 99, a federal program funds most of the benefits; that's what could be affected if Congress doesn't act...
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 11:33 AM
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28. I wouldn't put it past asshole republicans.
They're really starting to feel their oats right now. And I don't think it's going to end nicely.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:07 PM
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26. Roll Back the Reagan Tax Cuts BY Thom Hartmann
http://www.truth-out.org/roll-back-reagan-tax-cuts65332

When I was in Denmark in 2008 doing my radio show for a week from the Danish Radio studios and interviewing many of that nation’s leading politicians, economists, energy experts, and newspaper publishers, one of my guests made a comment that dropped the scales from my eyes.1

We’d been discussing taxes on the air and the fact that Denmark has an average 52 percent income-tax rate. I asked him why people didn’t revolt at such high taxes, and he smiled and pointed out to me that the average Dane is very well paid, with a minimum wage that equals roughly $18 per hour. Moreover, what Danes get for their taxes (that we don’t) is a free college education and free health care, not to mention four weeks of paid vacation each year and notoriety as the happiest nation on earth, according to a major study done by the University of Leicester in the United Kingdom.2

But it was once we were off the air that he made the comment that I found so enlightening.

“You Americans are such suckers,” he said. “You think that the rules for taxes that apply to rich people also apply to working people, but they don’t. When working peoples’ taxes go up, their pay goes up. When their taxes go down, their pay goes down. It may take a year or two or three to all even out, but it always works this way—look at any country in Europe. And that rule on taxes is the opposite of how it works for rich people!”
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-25-10 06:42 PM
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27. With 4 generations within an hour's drive
we had large and generally peaceful family gatherings when I was a child.

With us 4 children close in age, we appreciated having a lot of adults around so we could soak up the love and attention. With 12 cousins, we appreciated having a gang to run around with, too.

My parents were otherwise social isolates. Family was our society.

Alas, my kids are nearly orphans. We have to gather in "chosen" family, instead of "given" family. What family we have left is scattered and too distant mentally when not physically.

I hope my kids have some good memories. They certainly have better luck in the wider world than I. I have made some friends this year, finally had the time and opportunity.

And then there is the SMW-WEE family. Happy Thanksgiving All!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 05:56 PM
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29. darn, I totally missed this yesterday

and now it's the weekend!

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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 06:08 PM
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30. I did too! And I looked - maybe I was using back button, I don't know
a good thread, too. Oh, well. I'll just wait for the Friday WE.

Happy if belated Thanksgiving to all.
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hamerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:10 PM
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31. Count me among the missed as well.
I thought this was today's WEE and went to recommend it when I found out I was more than fashionably late.
So much to be thankful for. Health, friendship, and a skewed outlook on life that keeps it interesting to me.
Cheers!
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