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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:47 AM
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Recall drives could make history
Rarely have multiple lawmakers faced such action
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/117501513.html

As improbable as the last three weeks have been in state politics, Wisconsin is about to embark on another wild ride into the political unknown - a series of legislative recall campaigns on a scale the nation has rarely, if ever, seen.

"I don't think there's a precedent for what's going on in Wisconsin," said Gary Moncrief of Boise State University, an expert on legislative politics. "I don't think there's ever been a case where pretty much everyone has been subject to a recall attempt at one time on both sides. That's really amazing."

Formal recall campaigns have now been launched against 16 state senators - eight Republicans and eight Democrats. That's everyone in the 33-member Wisconsin Senate who is legally eligible to be recalled this year.

Even though state law is designed to make recalls difficult and rare, some political insiders expect the petition drives now under way to succeed in forcing multiple lawmakers to face recall elections this summer.

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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:51 AM
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1. The irony or ironically humorous thing would be
All 16 stand recall and the 8 repubs lose to Democrats and the 8 Dems lose to Repubs and were back to square 1.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 12:54 AM
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2. the test is getting the signatures. I don't think the pugs will get them
against the dems but I think the ones against the pigs will go fast.
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:03 AM
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3. Very true
But it creates an interesting picture
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 02:07 AM
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5. Measuring the size of the union protesters & the size (& sustainability) of the baggers,
which side has more heart to get those signatures needed?





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Mybrokenchains Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 02:50 AM
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6. LOL
then it would be a mulligan and the protests would start over
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 03:58 AM
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8. SPLAT!!
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toddwv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 01:54 AM
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4. I've read that the Dems need to net 3 seats to pick up the majority.
That would be awesome. Put some fear in Republicans in ALL the recall states.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 06:52 AM
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9. Yes. But that's three out of eight.
And those eight won their seats in 2008 (a democratic year), not 2010 when a republican "wave" won them seats that they otherwise couldn't win. While the reverse is true of the handful of democratic senators facing a recall.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:24 AM
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11. Those elected in 2010 face recall next year.
Along with Dear Leader.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:41 AM
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12. That's a year from now... at least.
Even assuming that energy levels stay this high for that long (a thing unheard-of in politics), there's still over a year before that becomes a reality. Lots of damage can be done in a year.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:21 AM
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13. Not if the Dems pick up those three necessary seats over the summer. nt
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:25 AM
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14. Which brings us right back to post #9
The ones who are eligible for recall in the next several weeks, are not the most vulnerable senators. They won their seats in a very democratic year. Targeting them won't be as easy as would a handful of the seats won last year that had previously been democratic seats.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:30 AM
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15. I'm willing to wait and see how it all shakes out.
Arguing over what may happen is pointless.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 10:41 AM
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16. Oh, I'm not "arguing"... I'm willing to wait and see as well.
I'm just pointing out how substantial a hurdle this process is. We've got a whole lot of people here on DU who seem to assume that a sleeping giant has been awakened and we'll now see a wave of victories all across the country any day now.

The reality is that this is uncharted territory, and that both sides have some advantages and disadvantages in the 16 districts that have potential recall elections coming.
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cognoscere Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 05:17 PM
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17. Your analysis is probably accurate if you don't include the backlash.
I read some post that told of people in Waukesha, the most Republican area in the state, being against Walker. One can only hope that is true.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 03:31 AM
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7. It's a method for
paralyzing a totalitarian government.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 09:05 AM
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10. A question would be if each of these recall elections would be on the same day.
They well might not be and in that case the side which is more motivated to get out their vote is more likely to prevail at the polls.

A sign I saw in Madison:

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