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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 10:28 AM
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Scary stuff from Cris Floyd on the Bu$hco Theocracy
One of the sticking points in finalizing the "interim constitution" of the Pentagon cash cow formerly known as Iraq was the question of acknowledging Islam as the fundamental source of law in the puppet state. Secularists objected, moderates were uneasy, extremists insisted. In the end, a fudge was worked out that cites the Koran as a fundamental source of legal authority, with the proviso that no law can be passed that openly conflicts with Islam.

We in the enlightened West smile at such theocratic quibbling, of course: imagine, national leaders insisting that a modern state be governed solely by divine authority! Governments guaranteeing the right of religious extremists to impose their views on society! What next – televised debates about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Oh, those poor, ignorant barbarians in Babylon!

Well, wipe that smile off your face. For even as we speak, the ignorant barbarians in Washington are pushing a law through Congress that would "acknowledge God as the sovereign source of law, liberty government" in the United States.
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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=15321

This is an article from the March 12, or so, edition of The Moscow Times. I linked to SmirkingChimp because the MT's archives are pay-per-view. This is some scary, scary shit folks.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 12:00 PM
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1. They've been at it awhile
The plan has been longstanding. Get Right wing nuts in positions of power, even if you have to lie, cheat and steal to get elected. So a good way to get elected right now, if you are a lib, is to pretend you're a fundy and then change your stripes once you're in office.

What scares me worse than this theocracy shit ( because it's not in Americans' DNA to buckle under this kind of crap) is how Americans have buckled under this crap. It's like we are so smug about the Holocaust. WE wouldn't stand by while millions were gassed. Well, folks, we are standing by while millions of our countrymen are imprisoned and treated EXACTLY like the prisoners at Abu Ghraib. Ask any corrections officer in any large prison. We are standing by while Neocons take over our country. We are too afraid to fight for this country for our kids. I'm even considering bailing on this land I love because I've lost faith in my fellow Americans. But DU helps because I am suddenly aware that there are more of us than I thought. Can we save this country? Only if we wake up and fight....
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 05:22 PM
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2. Of COURSE Americans would stand by and allow a Holocaust
I think a substantial Minority would cheer it on.

Not only is it clear it COULD happen here any time, it probably IS happening here right now.

I have absolutely lost faith in my Fellow Americans. They are now as weak and docile and easily lead and easily lied to as Soviets in the 1950s.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-04 11:23 PM
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3. Yawn.
Edited on Tue Jun-29-04 11:31 PM by struggle4progress
2/11/2004: Referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary.
4/26/2004: Referred to the Subcommittee on Courts, the Internet, and Intellectual Property.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR03799:@@@X

COSPONSORS(29)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR03799:@@@P


I'm guessing cosponsors sent copies of the printed bill to constituents to prove they "supported" Roy Moore. I'm often wrong, but I bet it's going nowhere.

<edit> DU doesn't like the : at the end of some thomas cites and hence doesn't always produce workable links. So here's the bill text:

HR 3799 IH

108th CONGRESS

2d Session

H. R. 3799
To limit the jurisdiction of Federal courts in certain cases and promote federalism.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 11, 2004
Mr. ADERHOLT (for himself and Mr. PENCE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL
To limit the jurisdiction of Federal courts in certain cases and promote federalism.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Constitution Restoration Act of 2004'.

TITLE I--JURISDICTION

SEC. 101. APPELLATE JURISDICTION.

(a) IN GENERAL-

(1) AMENDMENT TO TITLE 28- Chapter 81 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`Sec. 1260. Matters not reviewable

`Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an element of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official personal capacity), by reason of that element's or officer's acknowledgement of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government.'.

(2) TABLE OF SECTIONS- The table of sections at the beginning of chapter 81 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`1260. Matters not reviewable.'.

(b) APPLICABILITY- Section 1260 of title 28, United States Code, as added by subsection (a), shall not apply to an action pending on the date of enactment of this Act, except to the extent that a party or claim is sought to be included in that action after the date of enactment of this Act.

SEC. 102. LIMITATIONS ON JURISDICTION.

(a) IN GENERAL-

(1) AMENDMENT TO TITLE 28- Chapter 85 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end of the following:

`Sec. 1370. Matters that the Supreme Court lacks jurisdiction to review

`Notwithstanding any other provision of law, the district court shall not have jurisdiction of a matter if the Supreme Court does not have jurisdiction to review that matter by reason of section 1260 of this title.'.

(2) TABLE OF SECTIONS- The table of sections at the beginning of chapter 85 of title 28, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`1370. Matters that the Supreme Court lacks jurisdiction to review.'.

(b) APPLICABILITY- Section 1370 of title 28, United States Code, as added by subsection (a), shall not apply to an action pending on the date of enactment of this Act, except to the extent that a party or claim is sought to be included in that action after the date of enactment of this Act.

TITLE II--INTERPRETATION

SEC. 201. INTERPRETATION OF THE CONSTITUTION.

In interpreting and applying the Constitution of the United States, a court of the United States may not rely upon any constitution, law, administrative rule, Executive order, directive, policy, judicial decision, or any other action of any foreign state or international organization or agency, other than the constitutional law and English common law.

TITLE III--ENFORCEMENT

SEC. 301. EXTRAJURISDICTIONAL CASES NOT BINDING ON STATES.

Any decision of a Federal court which has been made prior to or after the effective date of this Act, to the extent that the decision relates to an issue removed from Federal jurisdiction under section 1260 or 1370 of title 28, United States Code, as added by this Act, is not binding precedent on any State court.

SEC. 302. IMPEACHMENT, CONVICTION, AND REMOVAL OF JUDGES FOR CERTAIN EXTRAJURISDICTIONAL ACTIVITIES.

To the extent that a justice of the Supreme Court of the United States or any judge of any Federal court engages in any activity that exceeds the jurisdiction of the court of that justice or judge, as the case may be, by reason of section 1260 or 1370 of title 28, United States Code, as added by this Act, engaging in that activity shall be deemed to constitute the commission of--

(1) an offense for which the judge may be removed upon impeachment and conviction; and

(2) a breach of the standard of good behavior required by article III, section 1 of the Constitution.





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