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Snellius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 08:35 AM
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Salon: The big wedding


This week should mark my second anniversary, but my wife died in the Sept. 11 attacks. When will the Bush administration tell the truth about what happened?
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Even more damning for Bush administration's claims of ignorance about the chance that terrorists would use planes as weapons is the following exchange, which seems to expose the administration's pre-Sept. 11 knowledge about reputed "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui. The Monitor and the Washington Post both reported that upon learning of the attacks during breakfast that awful day, CIA director George Tenet told former Sen. David Boren, "This has bin Laden all over it ... I wonder if it has anything to do with this guy taking pilot training."

If the administration cannot tell a simple truth on this topic, one is forced to wonder what else it is lying about. While few of the other "truth discrepancies" that have emerged from the White House and other executive branch departments and agencies can be refuted as definitively as Condoleezza Rice's claim that the administration had no way of knowing al-Qaida "would use an airplane as a missile," a pattern of politicizing intelligence can be demonstrated.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2003/08/14/truth/index_np.html
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Devils Advocate NZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-03 10:38 AM
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1. Hold up! This single sentence (if true) proves at least LIHOP!
The Monitor and the Washington Post both reported that upon learning of the attacks during breakfast that awful day, CIA director George Tenet told former Sen. David Boren, "This has bin Laden all over it ... I wonder if it has anything to do with this guy taking pilot training."

This conversation (if accurate) at least proves LIHOP! Consider: The administration claims that Moussaoui was overlooked because of an error that caused them to miss the critical information in his laptop (basically they failed to get a warrant) that is now being used to prosecute him.

Yet here we have DCI Tenet talking about this case? Ok, you could claim that the FBI director might know about the case (even though they supposedly had no idea what he was up to) but why would Tenet know unless they DID know what Moussaoui was up to? If they knew what he was up to, and supposedly the evidence shows that he was destined to be the 20th hijacker, then how come they were unable to foil the plot?

It just makes no sense to me that Tenet would know about a FBI investigation that the FBI itself was seemingly downplaying unless both the FBI and the CIA knew more about Sept 11 than they are admitting.
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