Meet the Secessionist Group Waiting for the Collapse of US Empire So the "South Can Rise Again"

[marmar]

Southern Poverty Law Center / By Janet Smith and Ryan Lenz

Meet the Secessionist Group Waiting for the Collapse of US Empire So the "South Can Rise Again"
The League of the South (LOS) pines for the independence denied the region by federal troops 150 years ago.
November 30, 2011 |


Since its bookish beginnings as a group dominated by academics in 1994, the League of the South (LOS) has been obsessively driven to glorify Southern history and culture, pining for the independence denied the region by federal troops 150 years ago.

But over the years, the neo-Confederate group’s platform grew to be distinctly racist, with the goal of building a theocratic South defined by “the cultural dominance of the Anglo-Celtic people and their institutions,” as its president, former Stillman College professor Michael Hill, once put it. At the same time, its early rhetoric angrily demanding that the rest of the country treat the South with more respect was replaced with explicit calls for a second secession from the “ungodly” North.

Now, the LOS agenda appears to be evolving even further, this time away from the ivory tower. Beginning in 2007, when its national conference was titled “Southern Secession: Antidote to Empire and Tyranny,” each year has seen further and more militant dedication to that idea. The theme in 2008 was “Surviving the Empire’s Collapse” — an idea of survivalist resistance that similarly has since been echoed each year with increasing enthusiasm.

During its national conference this July in Abbeville, S.C. — the self-proclaimed “birthplace and deathbed of the Confederacy” — the LOS continued in the same vein of preparing for the day the federal government collapses and the South rises again. “The mantra (that) violence, or the serious threat thereof, never settles anything is patently false,” Hill said in a prepared speech that was later posted on the group’s website. “History shows that it indeed does settle many things. Please don’t forget this — your enemy hasn’t.” ............(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/story/153275/meet_the_secessionist_group_waiting_for_the_collapse_of_us_empire_so_the_%22south_can_rise_again%22/

[Tesha]

1. I greatly look forward to the day that Dixie seceded again.

Almost instantly (as soon as their representatives decamp from DC)
we will again have a sane, functioning Federal Government.

We'll probably even have a balanced budget!

Tesha

[meow2u3]

2. You're not the only one

The only problem I see with Dixie seceding again is getting my family out of the South. They might end up enslaved.

Otherwise, go ahead and secede, Dixie. Do America a favor, but let my family go.

[southernyankeebelle]

7. That is my worry. I live in the south but I am a yankee. I worry because

my daughter-in-law was born and raised here in the south (TN). I have a grandchild who is close to her daddy and us. I think my daughter-in-law would move with us. There would be no way I would stay here. I couldn't stand my grandkid being raised a racist. My daughter-in-law isn't racist but her grandpa is. My son has told him not to talk about hating miniorities.

[meow2u3]

9. Come up North: we'll take Southern 99 percenters as refugees

We'll get you political asylum.

Don't forget to bring the kids, in-laws, and grandkids so their minds don't get poisoned by racism.

[roguevalley]

13. my dad always said the south would rise again ...

high enough to kiss a good yankee's ass.

[xchrom]

3. Recommend

[limpyhobbler]

4. If any state really wanted to secede, I wouldn't try to stop them...

[CanonRay]

5. They'd be broke and begging for help inside of two years.

[dballance]

6. Oh Please Let Rick Perry and the rest of these idiots go

It is a FACT that those southern states take in more income from the government than they pay. So good riddance to you and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Go be your racist dumbass selves. You'll raise the average IQ of US citizens once you leave.

[DavidDvorkin]

8. The Confederacy wanted to create its own empire

starting with Cuba, and by extending itself to the west and south.

If they had succeeded, how Anglo-Celtic would the CSA have ended up being?

[peace frog]

10. As long as they give us sufficient time to GTFO

I'm fine with it, but we need to find a good place to live outside of the South.

[Uncle Joe]

11. Then God must have poor aim, because Stonewall Jackson; probably the most religious and successful

General on either side, was shot by his own men only to die from the infected wound, up until then the Confederacy was doing quite well in the East, or perhaps God didn't want the South to secede?

Also at this year’s conference in South Carolina, Weaver held a class with a focus on armed battle. He showed a gathering of about 60 people how to draw a pistol, how to hold it and not accidentally shoot the weapon, even how to draw down on an enemy. “Divine providence always arranges the time for fighting. You must remember, God is the god of war,” he reassured them. “Do you realize when God is involved, the outcome is guaranteed? When God is involved, victory is assured. When God is involved, there is no failure.”

Thanks for the thread, marmar.

[blkmusclmachine]

12. Sounds like Pastor Rick Perry might be their kind of "uniter."

:evilgrin:

[bergie321]

14. Do it.

Then "Build the dang fence!"...

[iowasocialist]

15. Let 'em go!

The southern states have been a drag on the social conditions of this nation for over a century.

Someone once remarked that if there were no South, the US would be more like a Western European/Canadian welfare state and social democracy.

If only that could happen...

[kewhawaii]

16. A good book on how the US could fall apart

Many Americans have a "it could never happen here" mentality on succession and national disintegration, our civil war not withstanding. It's much like invasion, enemy bombardment, or territorial takeovers; those things happen elsewhere. Our 50 states are sacrosanct.

Many Americas, maybe, but not all. It has become clear that many southerners never felt that way. The urge to secede seems to be just below the surface, at least for some.

An interesting book on how the US could become undone, through southern succession or otherwise is The Untied States of America, by Juan Enriquez. I recommend it.