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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 07:50 PM
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The shadow war in Syria
By Pepe Escobar

Target Syria - the strategic prize that outstrips Libya. The stage is set. The stakes couldn't be higher. Libya 2.0 equals Syria? It's more like Libya 2.0 remix. With the same R2P (''responsibility to protect'') rationale - starring civilians bombed into ''democracy''. But with no UN Security Council resolution (Russia and China will veto it). Instead, Turkey shines, fanning the flames of civil war.

US Secretary of State Hillary ''we came, we saw, he died'' Clinton set the scene on Indonesian TV a few weeks ago, when she prophesied there would be ''a civil war'' in Syria, with a well financed and ''well-armed opposition'' crammed with army deserters.

Now it's up to NATOGCC to make it happen. NATOGCC is of course the now fully accomplished symbiosis between selected


North Atlantic Treaty Organization members such as Britain and France and selected petromonarchies of the Gulf Cooperation Council, aka the Gulf Counter-revolution Club, such as Qatar and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).

So feel free to bask in the glow of yet another mercenary paradise.

in full: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ML02Ak01.html
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 07:57 PM
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1. Load of shit.
Have you seen what the Syrian government is doing to the Syrians? Do you know what Assad's father did before?

I thought Libya was the prize because it had oil and Syria was going to be ignored because it had not.

Btw, Turkey is taking the lead in this with the Arab League. They want minimal involvement by the West.

And if there is civil war in Syria, it was not because of what Hilary said.

And if there are deserters, then it is because of what Assad is doing.

Are these people not allowed to be sentient beings themselves? but puppets who will die and be tortured for NATO.

Truly Orwellian.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JZbeonfjYw&list=FL_qoKlh8W_cQqpvbdeOSLVg&index=2&feature=plpp_video



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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 08:13 PM
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2. blah blah blah, like your posts about Libya..just more of your fantasies of FREEDOM
and how it will be attained and for whom and at what cost. It is all about the humanitarian crisis and there was no other way...sure, whatever you say. Talk about bullshit, that would belong to you.



**It's fair to argue that masses of Syrians want something other than the Assad regime - but certainly not some variant of humanitarian bombing, not to mention civil war. They saw NATO's legacy in Libya - virtually the whole infrastructure of the country destroyed, cities bombed to dust, tens of thousands of dead and wounded, al-Qaeda-linked fanatics wielding power in Tripoli, widespread ethnic hatred. They don't want a brand new massacre. But NATOGCC does.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/ML02Ak01.html
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-11 11:13 PM
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3. Crap. Listen to Libyans.
Edited on Thu Dec-01-11 11:42 PM by tabatha
FromJoanne Joanne ♌ Leo
Ask ANY citizen of #TRIPOLI how many civilians #NATO killed ? They will say practically None Only stupid outsiders claim civ. death by Nato

jenanmoussa Jenan Moussa
I asked pple here in #Misurata about #Nato role in #libya."At one point we could only sleep when we heard sound of their planes," some said.

jenanmoussa Jenan Moussa
Did you know people of #Misurata called #Nato planes "Hanan"? Meaning: "tenderness". "Here comes Miss tender," they tell one another. #libya

@ladyglennmore
Yvonne
RT @2011feb17 @AndersFoghR I live in Tripoli between 5major milit. bases u bombed many times.I confirm no civilians hurt during ur ops.TY :)

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Oh and by the way, there are about 600 Libyans on their way to help their brothers in Syria.

Please provide a quote from a LIBYAN, yes a LIBYAN, who states that NATO killed thousands and destroyed infrastructure.

a) NATO targeted military equipment. NATO did NOT destroy infrastructure.

b) Gaddafi destroyed infrastructure in Misrata.

c) The "Rebels" destroyed infrastructure in Bani Walid and Tripoli.

PLEASE GET YOUR INFORMATION FROM LIBYANS - NOT PROPAGANDISTS.


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‫Syrian protesters asking for NO FLY ZONE to stop killing in Syria.flv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y57JzcSSPMQ

New Syrian Flag (NATO NO FLY ZONE NOW)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrCr4oH1N8E

Syria - Hama "NO FLY ZONE" Rally sings "How Beautiful is Freedom" 10-28-11 Halfaya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VNmaBHzl50

SOS SYRIA - Rally Calls for NO FLY ZONE over Syria 9-2-11 Homs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrctNrmNVCo

Homs - Syrians Demand NO FLY ZONE as Dictator Assad Shoots into Rally 10-28-11 Deir Balbae
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmyVgwuE638



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4. Joanne is overwhelmingly convincing...wow.
Enjoy tabatha.
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