Liberals (unlike us?)

[ilpostino]

Excerpt from Michael Wolff's coverage of an unDU like world:

"It was all anyone could talk about the next day. People seemed genuinely taken aback (some people kept offering that since it was late at night, in a bar, it didn’t quite count) that one of their own might have violated the accepted codes of lofty liberal behavior. There was a little current of fear at the sudden recognition that testosterone could fuel politics. It was a shock, apparently, that we might be this close to real feelings. That politics could actually be personal."

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/media/columns/medialife/n_9121/

Thanks to Eric Alterman

[Mel]

1. the best part in bold!

This turned out to be the pivotal moment of the conference—even the primal one. When Clinton took questions, a young man from a technology company who identified himself as chairman of Bush-Cheney 2004 in California said he was offended by Clinton’s partisanship. To which Clinton, without hesitation, and with some kind of predatory gleam in his eye, said, “Good!” From there, Clinton went on, with emotion and anger, at a level seemingly foreign to most everyone here, to rip to shreds the motives, values, and legitimacy of the Republicans.

It was all anyone could talk about the next day. People seemed genuinely taken aback (some people kept offering that since it was late at night, in a bar, it didn’t quite count) that one of their own might have violated the accepted codes of lofty liberal behavior. There was a little current of fear at the sudden recognition that testosterone could fuel politics. It was a shock, apparently, that we might be this close to real feelings. That politics could actually be personal.

And that something more than overachieving might be required to take back the power—and for Walter to get his next job.</snip>

[jos]

2. Too bad

he didn't have that partisans feeling when he was President.

[UpInArms]

3. I do believe that this milquetoast piece

does put it quite well --

My panel—with Kinsley and Alter and Pat Mitchell, who runs PBS, and Ann Moore, the CEO of Time Inc.—was, naturally, the media panel: “Have Journalists Sold Out?” It was supposed to be moderated by Walter, but he traded it for another panel because he was, he joked, trying to get away from media. And, indeed, here, media was not a glamour subject. Nor was it a subject invoking any sort of heatedness or bitterness. There was even the sense, for all its various problems—consolidation, Fox (everybody said Murdoch’s name with great scorn), the mess at AOL Time Warner—of the media’s being, well, safely and proudly fair-minded (despite the conservative noisiness).

and if I can make myself coherent - I will say that the absolute crap that passes for mainstream journalism is quite easily number one on my list of troubles --

the fact that corporate fascist media conglomerates that refuse to use much balance and fail to investigate and ask the hard questions - ie 911 -- the 2003 SOTU lies ad nauseum

If we continue to have such a crap media dispensing the "news", we will continue to have a lazy sleepy noncommital populace that will just take another soma pill and go back to sleep.

[Terran]

4. dupe

Please go here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=6782

Dirk - DU Mod