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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:47 AM
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The war on terror is being lost
Yes, OK, this is stating the obvious, but it's worth keeping an eye on the current state of affairs.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1299413,00.html

We have just witnessed the latest manifestation of the so-called war on terror in the Caucasus. Further east, across the oil-rich Caspian, lies Uzbekistan, where the US turns a blind eye to serious human rights abuses in return for military bases for the same war on terror. They were initially used to attack the Taliban and al-Qaida in Afghanistan, where elections are due next month - an event the US has done little to prepare for, wary of upsetting warlords, while leaving responsibility for security to its European Nato allies, which are unwilling or unable to provide.
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Blair insists his government will not walk away from countries it has helped occupy. The bigger question is how he will achieve his stated objectives of promoting democracy and human rights in the Middle East (as well as the road map to a peace deal between Israel and Palestine), fighting poverty, and giving a much-needed boost to a UN-focused internationalism. All this would help, much more than military occupation, in the fight against terrorism.
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It is hard not to conclude that one of the greatest obstacles to the kind of better world Blair says he wants - one with less cause for terrorism, even if terrorists will always be around - is the Bush administration, and notably the likes of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. They have consistently dismissed British interests and embarrassed a prime minister who has attached himself so closely to the president with such little reward.

What did Blair think when delegates at last week's Republican convention booed speakers who mentioned the UN? How much longer can Blair, or his ministers, accept to be led by a US administration that denigrates everything they say they stand for? Asked at his press conference yesterday whether the war on terror can be won, Blair replied: "We can win it and I believe ultimately we will win it. But it is going to require emphasis not only on security, but tackling other issues as well." There is absolutely no sign he is succeeding in tackling them, not least because his closest ally, the US president, is simply not interested.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 08:56 AM
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1. Blair is a treasonous bastard.
His loyalty is to BushCo., not the best interests of the UK.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:19 AM
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2. Been reading Thomas Barnett's book...
The Pentagon's New Map, war and Peace in the 21st Century.

Barnett states that the US will never win the war on terror, in fact, we are creating more terrorists. The 21st century wars are about 'economics.' The monster of a Military the US has and continues to expand is beginning to look like the old Soviet military; rusted and dead. We don't have any monsters to fight and that is why bush's simplistic view of the world can only be measured in 'good and evil.'

The US and stubborn Cold War Worriers now in power, tried to make China into the old Soviet regime; the enemy. It has not worked because China 'Outfoxed' the US in the new world order of Economics. China learned from Russia's mistakes of starving their people in order to be toe-in-toe with the US military. Russia's people today may have freedom but they are still tremendously poor and many disillusioned with democracy.

Shamefully, today the US is funded by China...and China is on their way to make the pride and joy of the US, automobile manufacturing into a thing of the past. China will be importing new fuel efficient cars that can run on new technologies, getting rid of the OPEC Saudi czars and diminishing the investments of the American oil companies, and their political supporters.

The US, the leader in all new technologies and innovations...has Fucked up! Only a new president, a new direction, a new Vision will set us free.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-04 09:29 AM
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3. Like the 'War' on Drugs, it is illfated, unwinnable and unwise and not
Edited on Wed Sep-08-04 09:29 AM by ixion
true 'war' by definition.

To start these things is nothing more than tyranny rebranded. All these 'wars' against abstractions should cease immediately, and their resulting unconstitutional laws (Zero Tolerance, the unPATRIOTIC Act, etc) should all be repealed.
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