Why U.S. Will Lose In Iraq

[True_Blue]

With the proliferation of the Internet and the spread of political polarization, there has been an explosion of know-it-alls in America engulfing ambivalence and obliterating uncertainty. Everyone seems to know what America should and shouldn’t do, what will happen tomorrow and what won’t happen next year. And they know this with certainty.

Yet, those who claim the greatest certainty can be those possessing the least knowledge. It was the Neocons who insisted the Iraq War would be “quick and easy,” so it was they who couldn’t be bothered to plan for a protracted war. Now, approaching two years into a war that has no end in sight, Americans are becoming bothered there is no plan to win the war.

First we were told that when Saddam Hussein was overthrown, the fighting would stop. That was twenty-one months ago. Then, when Saddam Hussein the fugitive was captured, the insurgency would collapse. He was captured over twelve months ago. Then, when authority was transferred to the Iraqi government, the Iraqi military would take over the fighting. That was nearly ten months ago. Then, when Fallujah was occupied, the resistance would be defeated. The city was destroyed over two months ago, yet the insurgency is stronger than ever.

From defeating the Iraqi military to capturing Saddam Hussein to leveling to Iraqi control to Fallujah destruction, each promise has evaporated in a fresh pool of American blood.
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[scottxyz]

1. The light at the end of the tunnel...

...is just around the corner.

[coloradodem2005]

4. Yeah and that light is probably from a train.

n/t

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[redstateblues]

3. I would call an Islamic theocracy in Iraq failure

That is what we are headed toward- an Iraq closely aligned with axis of Evil member Iran- It will be much more hostile toward us than our former ally, Saddam.

[jmatthan]

5. Fool's paradise

Do you really think you are winning in Iraq?

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

[arkie dem]

6. You're right we already

Failed...!!!

[PunkPop]

7. Too late -

we've already failed.

At some point in the future I'm sure somebody, SOMEWHERE will claim success. America does not lack for apologists or prevaricators. But they'll be just blowing smoke up the ass of any poor gullible American willing to listen.

[mikehiggins]

8. You don't see us failing?

Well, where are YOU? L.A.? Des Moines?

Take a small hop over to Mosul and look around.

Is that what victory looks like to you?

How would you define failure?

[Pam-Moby]

10. You don't see us failing?

Well then it should be a tourist state that the repukes go every year for their vacation then.

[jimfromthebronx10469]

9. what would be concidered a "WIN" IN IRAQ??

to say we cannot fail is bullshit..bush/cheney and his warhawk friends who took america down this road of death and destruction were dellusional greedy men who obviously had iraq's oil wealth blind their judgement,piece of cake,we will be greeted as liberators not invaders said cheney.tom franks telling his troops on 4/03 to prepare to leave in 60 days.this war in iraq is illegitimate and full of lies and deceptions.after sept.11 bush had a "UNITED COUNTRY" even i supported bush and the hunt for osama began.then in dec.01' bush called off the hunt and turned his eyes towards iraq and the rest is history with no end in sight...:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :think: :think: :think: :think: :think: :hi: :dem:

[RC]

11. Remove the word 'American' from this sentence.

"each promise has evaporated in a fresh pool of American blood."
Over 100,000 of "THEM vs. 3000 of "US" dead. We are all the same species.
It is their country! What the hell are we doing there?

We invaded a sovereign country without provocation or just cause and started killing almost everyone in sight. Men, women, children..
Each and every time we had a Chance to to do something right for the Iraq's, we blew it.

We are fighting the Iraqi's in their own country and calling the Iraqi fighters defending their own country insurgents? We are no better, in fact worse, than the so called terrorists we say we are fighting.

The United States is going to pay big time for this atrocity. The neo-cons and rest of the world are making sure of that as you read this.

[biscotti]

12. Everything

Absolutely everything was done wrong from the start. Lies about the need to go. Once committed there were not enough troops. They were to worried about theatrics. Embedded reporters who were controlled, statue topple production on loan from tinsel town. Dis banning the Iraq army and police. Not employing Iraqis and using their own companies for reconstruction. Not controlling chaos and looting. Absolutely having no consciouses to culture of the region. A mass mistakes made from the start to this ill planned, mismanaged travesty. brought to you by incompetence that continues to be rewarded for it.s idiocy.
Remember the zillion dollor sound stage put together in Quitar for the official "Press Conferences" that was a joke! Eventually the press just refused to show up for that production of propaganda.

[pretzel4gore]

13. but failure is success!

bushinc, i believe, plotted to seize power in USA illegally in 2000, and it went off quite well.....unfortunately, the evidence that they stole election was right there in hard numbers, and in fall of '01 the NORC results were to come out (there are many who say if bushinc could steal the election by doctoring numbers etc whynot fix the NORC, after all the mediawhores are cowards etc but, before 911, everything was different in terms of the media...the media still was not totally inside the bush tent and the harsh truth of the NORC results was...bushinc was illegitimate!) The NORC results necessitated stage 2 of the coup...which we know as 911. 911 both took care of NORC results, gave the busheviks power to attack whoever, made bush very popular (the mediawhores helped) and mainly it blackmailed those who had helped bushinc until then, forced them to ally themselves with the bush criminals....911 blackmailed cnn/foxnews/ap/nytimes/cbs/nbc and so on ad nazism...remember they had 9 months to plan the details, most of which were on 'operation northwood' type templates...osama would have required years to plan 911, but the US military-industrial complex easily organized it in the 9 months the busheviks needed....Anyone who marvells at the bushevik success is a fool: the fix is in, and more then that, the stage managing of the fix is in.... iraq allows the mediawhores to cry and moan over...well over all that w/out any looking at what bushinc is up to, and the context....'who cares?' about the damage to USA or losses of life etc...?
btw welcome to DU RSL! wish we could toast a bushevik roundup and turkey shoot but...that be later

[ixion]

14. American blood?

I think just blood, period. :-(

[theycanbiteme]

15. What do you mean "will"...?

I think its a done deal.

[klyon]

16. War Is Not the Answer

Framing a new viewpoint

KL

[cornfedyank]

17. same reason as the last two conflicts..lack of reason

don't bother me . let the hessians do it, just do not win.

on edit: if the damn war is so right then why not pay for it now.
deficit spending is a tax on posterity.