"No New Net Jobs" - Lou Dobbs on CNN, Fri PM show

[pinto]

"employers all but stopped hiring new employees"

calls it a "selfish recovery"...corporate profits over jobs.

[Richardo]

1. Man - what is with him? I thought he was a major * apologist...

...WTG, Lou!

[spooky3]

39. Same here. He was snotty to Al Franken just a short time back.

I've avoided watching him much because I can't stand his Repug values and spin. But maybe the times they are a-changin'. Or, is he one of the conservatives who is upset that Bush has spent too much $?

[The Backlash Cometh]

47. I remember his smug look whenever he had a Democrat on the show.

It was a very condescending look, actually, as if he were humoring a child. If only he had listened...

[monobrau]

2. Go Lou!

He's been giving it to the Bushkavics this week.
The man speaks the truth.

[tom_paine]

3. Just what the hell happened to Lou Dobbs?

Something must have happened to a family member or someone he knows. I simply cannot conceive of any of the Corporate Pravda Whores straying off the reservation, endangering their job, their reputation, and perhaps (althought his will probably be more true 20-30 years) and quite possibly their lives, unless something happened to someone they know personally.

It would take more than the suffering of nameless, faceless Serfs to change old Lou's mind.

Somwething must have happened to someone he cares about or a family member.

Watch out Lou, the Busheviks will be coming for you if you keep it up.

"Selfish Recovery" a perfect label for the Bushevik Economic Lie.

[Demobrat]

6. You know, I always liked Dobbs

because his focus seemed to be on straight financial news without spin. But then it seemed like he changed overnight into a major Bushbot. So I stopped watching. This is more like the old Dobbs, just saying what's going on.

[Skittles]

54. maybe whoring for a paycheck didn't suit his nature

I welcome his conversion although I wish it would have come sooner

[tabasco]

7. Perhaps a newly-found patriotism.

A realization that the USA is the people of the USA, not the corporations. The people of this Nation are suffering, and we need all true patriots to show their colors. You are with the people or you are against us!

[pinto]

9. I agree, he is, for some reason, pissed as hell. there's a connect I think

with "outsourcing"....as conservative as he may be,he has a take on the underbelly of the beast. US can't live on McJobs alone.

[spooky3]

40. yes, Tom_Paine, we need a name for that theory

about how Repugs completely change their tune when bad things happen to them, but otherwise are incapable of empathizing with others and in fact often blame others for their misfortune. I think you are absolutely right.

[Salviati]

44. I refer to it as situational psychopathy...

[sendero]

53. But...

... we don't really know if anything happened to him.

Maybe the drip-drip-drip finally made him reassess his stance. Maybe he had a spiritual experience. There is really no way to know.

So, I'd prefer to be happy that he's seen the light, and hope that others are emboldened by his lead.

[Webster Green]

4. I'm watching in "Shock and Awe".....

The whores are turning against the chimp. They are actually laying it on the line about the phony economic recovery. They just said "Its not only a jobless recovery, its a selfish recovery".

The wing nuts I've seen on the tube today look shell-shocked and desperate. No WMD's, Powell admitting no Iraq link to terra, economy still sucks.

Bush is TOAST!

[spooky3]

41. he may not be toast yet, but the yeast is rising!

[calimary]

49. NEW MEME ALERT!! "Selfish Recovery."

MAN-oh-MAN do we need to repeat that! It's broken-record time, folks! THIS is a good one. Because SELFISH is what these people have been from the get-go, and it's their prime motivation. They have elevated selfishness to a fine art, and they wear it like haute couture.

Let the games begin.

[nostamj]

5. and he showed a clip of *

claiming that the 5.7% unemployment rate was a good thing.

did anyone even tell the POS that the REAL rate is closer to 10%?

not that he'd care. corporations are doing GREAT by squeezing more work out of less employees. and who can afford to complain?

i want to live long enough to piss on his grave (though I hope he dies of old age in a federal prison)

[Webster Green]

8. Yeah, and he looked like a complete idiot....

Not that there's anything unusual about that.

[buycitgo]

10. smooth talker Don Evans up soon

this will be a test of what's really going on with Dobbs

will he just kiss the ring of one of the real powers behind the curtain, or ask him some real, penetrating questions, like, say how many jobs have been OUTSOURCED since Feb, O1, as opposed to jobs, uh, CREATED??????

and did you see the string of emails/letters he showed before break?

five or six, ALL scathingly anti-pug policy

here's Evans

[buycitgo]

11. is it me, or does Evans have a certain diabolical look about his eyes?

[buycitgo]

12. Dobbs: "WHEN will this job creation start to kick in?"

ha!!!!!!!!!

"private economists" predict that jobs will begin to be created, but he DOES NOT SAY WHEN!!!

[nostamj]

14. evans: one more LYING piece of sh*t!

they only care about corporations making $$$.

stop outsourcing! they can't begin to restore lost jobs much less increase unemployment.

[pinto]

13. Evans says Admin "doesn't have a forecast", Dobbs guffaws,

and talks about re-election....?

[buycitgo]

17. what about outsourcing, Dobbs asks

what are your plans to deal with the issue?

Evans blames new world economy, says free trade is GOOD! GOOD!

"it means our economy will be stronger"

he's "NOT CONCERNED" about outsourcing

says ONE MILLION jobs are created a week!, and the world marvels at that.

Dobbs asks if the world also marvels at our 500 Billion trade deficit


ha

[pinto]

20. kick

[Gin]

34. Evans forgot to add that the 1 million jobs a week being created are in

CHINA and INDIA

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

15. "We're doing a good job, but we need to do more."

Yes, I've got to admit, the Commander In Chief stepped in and confidently restored my faith in the "explosive" economic recovery that we're currently witnessing.
I don't think that there is a single poster on this Web Site, REGARDLESS of their individual political stripe, that will argue with Bush's assertion that HE NEEDS TO DO MORE. Hallelujiah, words of truth spoken by Shrub at last.

[Skittles]

57. PLEASE don't let him do any more

he has DONE ENOUGH

[calimary]

50. I plan to pour salt on it.

The surface of said grave should be as barren and desolate as its contents. If you've peed on it, first, then the salt will sink in more quickly.

[Marian]

16. I've always despised Lou Dobbs

Then a couple of nights ago, he was talking like a real liberal. I couldn't believe it.

Did anyone else here see "Invasion of the Body Snatchers"?

[buycitgo]

22. POLL for tonight:

Are you better off today than you were (missed it) years ago?

sound familiar?

Dobbs could have been tougher on Evans, but he did ask him some tough questions, upon which, unfortunately, he didn't pounce, Russert-like (when questioning dems, of course)

[Richardo]

27. Marian! Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[efhmc]

42. Welcome, good to have you here.

Saw the original and part of the remake. Good, scary stuff.

[calimary]

51. Welcome to DU, Marian!

He's not on my list of favorites, either, but it seems like in the past few days, he's been talking a lot more like one of the good guys. Some other folks here speculate that maybe something DID happen that really hit home for him, or someone in his family or a neighbor or someone else that he cares about. Now that it's hit home, let's see him keep it up as a bush/big business apologist. He is not doing that, lately. If it was an unfortunate circumstance for someone near him, I am sorry about that, but perhaps even so, it will contribute to a larger, greater good.

We NEED folks like him on TV every night dumping on the republi-CONS and their damned politics of short-sighted selfishness and short-term gain and penny-wise/pound foolish crap. It's been a plague on our country since Reagan started giving us national enemas with it.

I believe in redemption. And I'm hoping he's experienced something of that. Because he is NOT towing the party line, and he's putting these assholes on the hot seat and interrogating them as they deserve to be interrogated. It's about damned time!

Now, we need to email him or write him or call the switchboard and offer kudos, and say why. This calls for some positive reinforcement.

[Skittles]

59. lol.............

WHO ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH LOU ???

[pinto]

18. outsourcing not a problem: Evans

[nostamj]

19. Dobbs is hitting POS Evans pretty hard

and Evans is pathetic. LYING LYING LYING LYING

corporate whore.

[Marlie]

His poll questions of the day

Are you better off today than three years ago? Three years ago -
Hmmm...is he actually referring to the Bush Presidency? We should
all write him a thank you for the great job he's doing.

92% No

[hatrack]

21. Man, Don Evans is a king-sized pantload!

Nonrespnsive, blathering, bullshitting.

I particularly liked his discussion about the American economy's amazing ability to produce jobs. WTF?!?!?!?!?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

29. No, The best part of the Evans interview was...

..."I get out of bed every morning asking myself what can we do to create more jobs????"

[hatrack]

31. That, and of course, his citing of the amazing stock market performance

The best part was watching Evans jolly-talk Wall Street while just below his yammering puss the electronic numbers danced:

Dow -133.55

NAS -13.33

S&P -10.06

[librechik]

36. Didn't he also say "as my valet was tightening my shoelaces...

and the upstairs maid was putting the final polish on my coif, as I prepare to eat my daily caviar and 1000 dollar bill omelet..."

just joking--I didn't watch it--I run the other way when I see Evans coming...

[Cooley Hurd]

23. Lou Poll - Are you better off than you were three years ago?

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Wow!!! Can't be more blunt than that!

Yes 8% 126 votes

No 92% 1470 votes
Total: 1596 votes

Whatta ya know?

[nostamj]

26. current results.... 92% NO

Yes 8% 126 votes

No 92% 1470 votes

Total: 1596 votes

[jab105]

46. And, here's something really funny!!

60% want our chimpy president to be elected in 2004...HAAAA!!!!!!!!!

[buycitgo]

24. link to poll: are you better off than you were three years ago

can you put this in header?

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

[cryofan]

25. But globalism really got underway with Clinton

Look, I hate Bush with a passion, and I hate the GOP for its hypocrisy. But the Dems are almost complicit in this corporatist state as the GOP. It really got underway with Clinton.

[buycitgo]

28. So?

that was one of the worst things Clinton ever did, and the dems are clearly culpable

BUT......who's in power now?

who's going to pay the piper......I hope?

I voted for WJC in 92, Nader in 96, Gore last time, btw.

[treepig]

33. globalism is the result of forces larger than the u.s. president

so it's really immaterial under whose administration it started.

the key point is that under clinton, enough new jobs were created to replace those that went overseas plus provide for the new entrants into the job market.

but under bush's policies, these new jobs are not being created - that's the key point, not the fact that jobs are being lost overseas (there has been huge job losses throughout the u.s. history as jobs were either displaced overseas, or entire industries died - e.g., whaling, the family farm . . . ).

[spooky3]

43. it was well underway in the 1980s

[Skittles]

60. yes but CLINTON WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING BY NOW

if it was this damaging HE WOULD ACT.

[nostamj]

30. poll update: 94% NO

Yes 6% 236 votes

No 94% 3479 votes

Total: 3715 votes

[buycitgo]

32. Rik Kirkland, preceded by Steve Sheppard

Fortune, Business Week, respectively, spinning MADLY, using various dodges as to why jobs are going down the toilet:

small businesses create jobs

ONE set of numbers don't tell the tale

DOBBS is taking them ALL on!!!!

not buying their swill!

[Gin]

35. Lou was getting red in the face ...with Evans..he just gave up...

I guess its a different world up there in the ivory towers.

[calimary]

52. Yeah. Small businesses create jobs. So why are they being phased

out for the Walmarts of the world?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

56. Steve Shepard: "Don't Focus On The Losers"

OK, rather than wait for the transcript, I played back the show and got this from Steve Shepard (Business Week):
"We get the benefit of immigrants to this country, their brain power, their purchasing power, we get the benefit of low cost imports. There are a lot of things that are very good in what's going on now and it's not a one-sided thing. Either way there are winners and losers. You can focus on the losers and lose site of the benefits."

Remember, folks...DON'T FOCUS ON THE LOSERS. Also, there are a lot of VERY GOOD things going on right now. Thanks Steve!!!

It's Wizard Of Oz all over again. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

:evilfrown: :evilgrin: :evilfrown:

[kcwayne]

61. This guy typifies the view of the investment class

They believe that that they will suffer no consequence from the destruction of the working class's standard of living. It's the 21st century's version of "Let them eat cake".

It is simply irrelevant to them that the US is headed towards having 40-50% of its population living in abject poverty, because they believe that they will benefit from lower costs in their businesses.

The French aristocracy had this same delusion in the 1700s. I wonder how long before the guillotine sliced through their necks they started thinking "maybe that wasn't a good idea"

[cryofan]

37. Betting Pool: How long before the Corporatists Take Down Lou Dobbs?

I say he is outta there within 6 months....

[economic justice]

38. Why haven't people liked Lou Dobbs?

Lou Dobbs is awesome! If you think tonight was "different" you don't watch Lou Dobbs! He has had about a two year long fight with the administration over corporate responsibility. He is one of THE biggest whistleblowers on outsourcing (calls big companies on it all the time) and has his "corporate crooks scorecard" or whatever he calls it. The guy is awesome!

[alcuno]

45. The Iraq War

Dobbs has always been good on the truth of the economy, but he was working overtime last year as an enabler for the Iraq War.

[Bake]

48. Lou recognizes what the Busheviks hope no one else does:

That sooner or later, if Americans don't have good paying jobs, there is going to be no one for the corporations to sell their stuff to! That's one reason why he's big on the "exporting jobs" story, kicking butt and taking names! He's not afraid to name names!

Bake

[TrogL]

58. They think they're going to sell it to the Iraquis

and the Afghans and the North Koreans and Libyans and Canadians if they invade.

[LincolnMcGrath]

55. Are you better off today

Are you better off today than you were three years ago?

Yes 6% 405 votes

No 94% 6272 votes


Total: 6677 votes