Watching 60 minutes segement on globalization

[Deja Q]

:puke:

Disgusting.

"Money money money." Too right.

Put money above people in terms of priorities and the people won't be happy.

[Gin]

1. The IRS sends our returns to India...."Geography is history" was the quote

of the day...f..ers

[Deja Q]

2. Yup. Taxes, credit reports, government welfare requests...

It's amazing how far this lunacy has spread.

Someone recently suggested I become a political activist for India. No way. America first. India is getting jobs that pay far more than their median (as just said in 60 Mins!)

By, of, and for the corporation. We gotta stop it, do American citizens mean nothing anymore?! x(

[JPace]

3. Also said that 17 states are doing their

welfare calls through outsourcing.
Isn't that ironic, people here going
on welfare because they cannot find
jobs and they are talking to their
local welfare agency through India
workers.

Our tax dollars at work for India.

[slor]

4. The truth is...

we cannot get mad at the people of India, eventually they will be dropped too. The greedy firms that want us to "buy American" have to answer for this!

[Gin]

5. Lou Dobbs should hear this about the welfare and the IRS...

this is almost unbelievable.

[Logansquare]

7. No, we shouldn't blame Indians

anymore than unions should blame "scabs." As long as there are poor people in the world, corporations will have low-wage workers.

I used to work in a call center back in the 80s, and most of my coworkers were lower-income African Americans. What the hell are those people doing now?

[Deja Q]

8. don't worry, the way corporations are re-engineering America,

there's gonna be a LOT MORE low-wage workers in America.

When will Americans have had enough of this fleecing and raping of the middle and lower classes, huh?

And those techies in India are making a fortune compared to their bretheren who aren't nearly as lucky.

[JPace]

9. In India the average yearly income is $500.

The people being hired by these
new outsourced positions are being
paid $2000. to $3000.

That is many times higher than the
average wage earner. These are very
desirable jobs.

Now bush will bring in Mexican workers
if he can to do all the low skill jobs.
These will keep wages stagnant and even
regressive.

I was watching a house builder contractor
being interviewed saying he hires many
illegal workers. Said that if he had to
pay Americans to do the work it would add
another $12,000. to the price of the home
he builds.

That is the bottom line.....they don't want
to pay a living wage, they want us to accept
low wages and be grateful to have work at all.

Cheap labor conservatives are getting their
way.
http://www.conceptualguerilla.com/blurbs.htm

[Logansquare]

6. Yes, the other side of the story would have been nice

Here's me giving them a BIG benefit of a doubt:

Perhaps Safer and his producer knew they wouldn't get to do the story if they did show the effects on U.S. job creation, and instead just let the facts damn themselves.

[ClintonTyree]

10. I had to turn it off...............

Bush giving all of those Corporations Billions in Corporate welfare and they don't create a single job in this country, they send all the jobs to India. I get so frickin' mad about this I'd have a heart attack if I kept watching.
I don't care WHO our nominee is, I'm going to work my ass off getting him (sorry Carol) elected.
These godamned crooks have to put in their place.

[TheMiddleRoad]

11. Candidates

I seriously can't understand why ALL the democratic candidates aren't moving this issue front and center.

Well, I kinda understand it from a fund-raising standpoint. Though Dean has demonstrated that he can bypass corporate funding mechanisms through the internet.

I have sent letters to all the front-runners that they need to OPPOSE WTO and NAFTA. This is the issue where the rubber hits the road. This is the issue where President Bush is 100% vulnerable. He cannot triangulate on this issue. His bosses (corporate CEOs) wouldn't stand for it.

BTW, Kudos for Kucinich for being the only candidate who wants to nuke "free trade", WTO and NAFTA. Kucinich would probably kill the World Bank and IMF for that matter. They are ALL up to no good.

Kudos to Dean for the position that NAFTA needs to be modified to take labor and environmental issues into concern. Though, he might as well advocate abdication because the Mexican governmnet would never willingly modify the agreemant that benefits the Mexican Oligarchs so handsomely and provides a US supported mexican welfare system (illegal immigration).

[question everything]

14. Candidates on sending jobs overseas

When Howard Dean was in Minneapolis last summer he said that he supported small businesses since they do not send jobs overseas. I was surprisingly impressed by his comment - not reported anyplace, as far as I know.

[Tactical Progressive]

12. C-SPAN showed a panel discussion a couple of days ago

Chuck Schumer and some Republican Congressman are making the rounds with a business spokesman, I think the head of the Chamber of Commerce or some such, talking about how globalization is becoming very destructive.

The anecdote that I remember most is how they had been talking to some Wall Street trading firm when they were told 'We have 800 top-level professional computer programmers working on our software. They make an average of about $150,000 a year. By next year they will all be gone.' To cheap talent in India.

This kind of blew them away, and even though they made a point to say that it's not more important than manufacturing jobs, they all agreed that economically high-value jobs are leaving and we have a major problem on our hands.

The Republican kept saying how when the 'factors of production are as mobile as the money' that economic laws cease to function. Maybe that's true across borders, I don't know, but it sounds like Bushwa to me. But since even pure nonsense trumps Republican economics in both theory and practice, who cares. The point is that perceptions are starting to change and they're going to be changing more.

Schumer et al want a complete reworking of the regulations and laws that comprise global trade agreements. If perceptions change enough by November, that might become a possibility. A Democratic President and Congress are alot more likely to see the worker's perspective than Republican corpo-sluts. If Bush and his hard-right Congress is elected, however, I think there will be four years of very tough times ahead for all American workers and hence the broader economy.

[Wonk]

13. quicktime & mp3 here for those who missed it

3 M mp3

53 M quicktime