Kristol: It's Clinton's Fault! No lie, that's the spin on O'Neill!

[Timefortruth]

Kristol: O'Neill War Memo Came From Clinton

<sikp>
But former White House official Bill Kristol, who now publishes The Weekly Standard, says that a key memo cited by the author that outlines U.S. contingency plans to topple Saddam Hussein goes back to the Clinton administration.

" quotes this secret memo, 'Plan for Post-Saddam Iraq,' that apparently the Bush administration had in its first few months," Kristol told "Fox News Sunday."

"I'm sure that was left over from the Clinton administration. Of course had a plan for post-Saddam Iraq - it's been our policy to have regime change there for three years before the Bush administration."
<more>

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/1/11/115515.shtml

Who else's fault could it be?

[hedda_foil]

1. Here's why he can say that.

Kristol is the head of PNAC. He wrote a letter to Clinton that was signed by all his PNAC buddies, which was supported by Lieberman, telling him that he had to go to war to change regimes in Iraq in 1998. Clinton's shift to formally endorsing the goal of regime change was the result of this letter. I believe this was also when the inspectors were pulled out of Iraq at the US's request and we started bombing them like mad. But Clinton refused to go to all the way into war over it because there was no public support. (Madeleine Albright and others actually tried to drum up support but failed.) So in a bizarre way, Kristol is right. If Clinton had gone all the way with the PNAC recommendations, instead of just part of the way, * wouldn't have had to do it!

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. So in other words, Clinton determined that the lack of public support for

the war was a major reason to withdraw from the war plans. That's what Kristol fails to mention. Clinton may have considered it, but he determined that without public support, it was an ill conceived plan. So Bush is still in the wrong.

[TheMiddleRoad]

10. The Sitty Part

The Shitty part is that Kristol's buddies were undermining Clinton's authority to lead militarily with all their "Wag the Dog" bullshit over Bosnia.

If Bosnia was "Wag the Dog", then Iraq is "Wag the Elephant".

Oh yeah, and Bosnia worked. Every foreign Military action that Clinton started ultimately worked. Just goes to show you what can happen when you work diplomatically and get your neighbors to help you.

[ComerPerro]

2. Thats annoying as hell

Shit, The Clinton Administration also had a point-by-point plan for taking out Al Qeada, but its not like the Bush Administration wanted to follow that.

When are these fucking assholes going to take some responsibility?

[Cocoa]

3. this isn't about one memo

forget for a minute that Kristol is speculating through that whole thing.

O'Neill is describing the administration as actively planning the occupation of Iraq. Not just discussing, not just contingency plans, but actively planning.

I wonder if Ellen Mariani is going to subpoena O'Neill...

[Mika]

5. Yes

"O'Neill is describing the administration as actively planning the occupation of Iraq. Not just discussing, not just contingency plans, but actively planning."

And right after running on a 'no nation building' platform, and getting almost a majority of the vote for it.

[madrchsod]

6. it`s my fault

i`ll take the blame. why? cause i`m a nice guy.

[are_we_united_yet]

12. I don't know why

But I laughed hysterically at your post!!

:)

[eyesroll]

7. There are ALWAYS contingency plans. Always.

I'm sure the US has plans on how to annex Canada, how to stop an invasion of aliens from space, what to do in case someone weaponizes a chicken virus for use in humans.

It doesn't mean they will ever use these plans.

I'm sure there were Clinton-era "plans" to topple Saddam. And Tony Blair. And Jaques Chirac. Et. al.

[ellie]

8. Is there nothing Bill can't do?

Even though he is no longer in office, former President Bill Clinton still wields power. A memo that was written during his administration is being blamed for the preemptive strike on Iraq that has left 495 Americans dead. Other memos have been linked to floods, forest fires, and one particular memo that has recently come to light has ominously mentioned Yellowstone park. Stay tuned for further developments.

[Bucky]

9. Damn that Clinton penis!

The Clinton penis wrote that memo! Damn it!

[are_we_united_yet]

11. Clinton is a BAD MO FO!