If you want to know how people are reacting to the O'Neil story:

[barbaraann]

http://post.news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=NEWS&action=l&ft=1&board=37138469&sid=37138469&title=Former%20Treasury%20Sec.%20Paints%20Bush%20as%20%27Blind%20Man%27&tid=nmpeopleoneilldc&date=01-09-2004&url=story.news.yahoo.com%2Fnews%3Ftmpl%3Dstory%26u%3D%2Fnm%2F20040109%2Fpl_nm%2Fpeople_oneill_dc_1&.sig=_2Utg07BME6tlGYJqHzvZQ--

This link may disappear because Yahoo erased all of the messages and reposted the story with zero messages.

[Must_B_Free]

1. Yep

the usually loudmouths are getting a severe beating. Every volley they make is torn to shreds by the crowd. There are spontaneous massive recommendation counts appearing on Anti Bush messages still on the most recent page, like 25+ recs...

The few pro Bush posts seem to get no recommendations.

The floodgates are starting to burst.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. They BURST

They are wide open

The Red States will turn

If the elections are fairly clean, the results are going to shock the pundits... not us, just the pundits

[CatWoman]

13. few??

I've been monitoring that thread since yesterday, and believe me, the anti * people OWN that thread.

The best the pro * people can do is pull up the old "mass graves" defense.

[barbaraann]

2. Oh, and the last time I looked at FR, half of the posts were about

some football game.

Is there a football game that's more important that whether or not our government has become deceptive and evil?

[alfredo]

4. No, they are silent because the O'Neill story cut deep.

there's probably not that many happy people over there tonight I suppose.

[Timefortruth]

16. There are several O'Neill threads, but man are they boring.

There are two points which are repeated over and over and over and over.....

1)O'Neill is simply describing a contingency plan which was developed by Clinton administration (no news here).

2)O'Neill was never a loyalist, he is a chump troll (blame the messenger).

But the threads are short, the spin isn't convincing them yet. Wait, they will be converted.

[leesa]

10. Sadly, in America MOST sporting events are more important

than whether or not our gov. has become deceptive and evil. The corporatist GOP counts on it, hence the non-stop sports with which to numb brains.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

24. Yep. Sports instead of knowing the story on life and death events. grrrrrr

Sports are the same as the circuses for the masses in the Roman Empire. They keep males thinking "my city rocks, yours sucks."

Rehearsal for doing whatever "coach" tells you to get the "others."

Think of the time and grey matter that men use up so they can shoot the shit around the water cooler with other men talking about GAMES!!

The next time some guy asks you about 'the game,' ask him about David Kelly, Joseph Wilson, Rand Beers, Karen Kiatkowski, John O'neill and other MAJOR PLAYERS IN THE GAME OF LIFE AND MORALITY.

Fucking sports...sheesh...

[GiovanniC]

43. Hey, hey...

Easy there. It's possible to be concerned about the world around you, mindful of political events, and still enjoy a good football game.

Especially when said football game makes Rush Limbaugh choke on a McNabb victory.

[salin]

3. Interesting....

someone thinks he is smearing bush to divert attention away from himself, because HE is about to be implicated in Enron... (wtf?!?!)

[seemslikeadream]

8. I think they got their secretaries mixed up

Secretary White was the one involved in Enron, wasn't he?

[salin]

11. right you are...

it seemed like such a leap.... but that makes sense she mixed up bush officials.

[0007]

25. Don Evans was another involved in Enron

[Bozita]

27. Ed Gillespie (RNC head) drew his paychecks from Enron too

Slimy bastards all.

[Fleshdancer]

32. All old, rich, white guys look the same I guess.

:evilgrin:

[lyonn]

18. Alcoa wasn't it

[Cat Atomic]

5. You're wrong. Bush is "incredibly popular". Wolf told me so.

[FarLeftRage]

6. It is still up

and WOW! there are some real anti-b*$h doozies posted.

These people are angry!

[Catfish]

7. Interesting

I was wondering about the general reaction to the story. I've been posting here almost all day about this, I can't seem to pull myself away. This seems like a very big story to me but I'm wondering if it is to many people

[DoYouEverWonder]

12. 19,000 documents is major.

This is the first time we've had someone high up in the Bu$hler administration come clean. And this is the first time we have concrete evidence of their real plans with maps and charts included.

[cthrumatrix]

14. bush is in "hot water" ...he will have zero believability with america, UN

and other countries

[PaDUer]

33. When did he ever?

He's worse than the old man..he had his thugs strongarm everyone into voting how he wanted. I'd be elated IF he'd announce he's leaving the WH during the SOTU.--guess I can dream..there's no way he'd step down..never..never trusted him, never will.

[HereSince1628]

23. 19K is a lot, my question is about 1, the one marked secret

Was that a declassified document? That in itself is interesting in an administration of utmost interest in secrecy. I trust O'Neill didn't leak a classified document...if he did he's gonna be an enemy combatant by morning.

[TacticalPeek]

38. It was just the cover memo, listing a topic marked secret.

Rest assured, O'Neill's lawyers, Suskind's lawyers and the publisher's lawyers went meticulously over everything with tweezers and Geiger counters.

[kentuck]

20. It's a major story, catfish...but

The DU is usually at least a week ahead of the corporate media and sometimes even more. It may not come out tomorrow or the next day but it's coming....

[Catfish]

21. I'm hoping so

but have been disappointed so many times.

[Enraged_Ape]

35. DU is often MONTHS ahead of the corporate media

I heard about Robert Novak's treasonous outing of a CIA agent, and the subsequent compromise of our international intelligence and antiterrorism activities, in the Democratic Underground forums months before I saw a whisper of it in the popular media.

[LunaC]

15. Fanning the flames

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1007943

[barbaraann]

17. Vote for Impeachment: 29 recs Against: 1 HAHAHA

29 TO ONE

I'm not sure Chimpy can even run.

[barbaraann]

19. Whoa! Now it's 33 to 1

Geez, I am truly amazed.

[DrBB]

22. God what a LOUSY interface that is

Posted a couple of messages, just to add my little contribution. But jeez, what a lousy discussion board interface that is. Makes you appreciate DU.

[0007]

26. I'd like to see the senate open with angry senators

wanting junior thrown out of office.

[grasswire]

28. the AOL message boards are jumping tonight

...it's really wild. Here's a random selection of a few posts:

"O'Neill is a dirty stinking pig. I can't stand a person who is not a team player."

It looks like Democrats are getting really worried that George W.Bush is going to win big in November,But as we all know GOD is backing Bush in this Election and you can see it when they have slimes like O'Neil tell lies and distortions to get ahead.I have no worries but if a Dem does win it may mean the end of this nations Constitution plus Laws which would mean the end for that believe what are founding Fathers intended.I will pray to God tonight and will everyday till Bush wins again and hes answered my prayers before so if everyone of us prays hard Bush will win in a landslide

I'M SO GLAD GORE LOST! WHERE WOULD WE BE NOW WITH HIM IN OFFICE I SHUTTER TO THINK!!!
I PROUDLY VOTED FOR BUSH AND WILL DO SO AGAIN,I HAVE A CHILD IN THE ARMY AND HE MET THE PRESIDENT,WE ARE ALL PROUD OF BUSH AND KNOW THAT GOD ENDORSES HIM!!! SOME PEOPLE WILL DO ANYTHING TO SELL BOOKS AND GET THEIR NAME IN THE SPOTLITE,
SHAME ON YOU PAUL O' NEILL!!!!

Ladymac, God is not backing Bush!! Bush is a lying, cocaine-using, alcoholic, and a retard to boot. God had nothing to do with the voting irregularities in Florida (page Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris for that) nor for the Supreme Court stopping the recount. Bush did not receive a majority of the people's vote. He was bailed out, just like his daddy's rich friends bailed him out THREE times when he was going bankrupt--he was a lousy businessman, and he's a lousy President, so don't blame God.

I believe in God wholeheartedly. I do not believe in Bush, and I do not believe that God is backing Bush in anything!! I also am not a Democrat. You do not know that O'Neill is telling lies, Ladymac1957. God has answered my prayers before too, so I am going to pray that he causes Bush to lose the election the end of this year. Our country is in a sorry state and it IS Bush's fault!! Bush will LOSE in a landslide!!!

God is backing George Bush, Allah is backing Osama Bin Laden..the democrats need to find a God of some sort to get into the race ...Theocracy in action !!!

Definitely the war was obviously something that needed to be done. I don't care if he knew it days after he went into office. If Clinton would have been on top of things then 9/11 would never have happened. Why can't people understand that. Because they are anti-American anyway. That is why.

Well, Heck, if Bush wins, it might bw the end of the world period. Ever think about that. And you you people, please, please, please, stop pimpin God. It's scandalous.

which are God are YOU talking about Ladymac The devil, because that is who bush is truly worshiping he is an Illuminist didn't` you know that. Jesus Christ is not in his corner at all YAHWEH GOD ALMIGHTY is not with this man. I would not be surprised if he had set 9/11 up himself sabotage it having afgan/ Iraq do the job. He is a liar an Hypocrite as well. Open your eyes read your scriptures. I pray he does not get re-elected. Oh not to mention he stoled the first one.

your god calls bush and the g7 the beast with the seven heads in revelations... look it up

and it looks like the stupid still reproduce!

Bush needs more than God to win.

FUCK! are you yanks this stupid? GOD HELP US

God should be imbarassed and ashamed to back such a snotty man

[hellhathnofury]

29. I'm glad I don't have AOL.

[CatWoman]

30. gee

they have O'Neil confused with Zell Miller :silly:

[camero]

34. yep

the stupid still reproduce. They voted for Bush.

[kysrsoze]

39. LOVE to see the ridiculous misspellings like 'shutter'

Shows you how fucking stupid these fucks are. 'nuff said.

[RebelOne]

44. The person who posted in all caps is Ladymac

She/he (I think it's a he) always starts threads to incite and flame. And he posts under at least 3 other screen names. Most people are wise to this idiot by now.

[hellhathnofury]

31. I think alot of them are going to have shell shock.

They've gotten used to defending shrub or just being quiet. We've got to play the O'Neill=Good Republican, Bush=Nixon.

[CatWoman]

37. I'm posting on that thread now

there is one poster, "badcandie" who is being severely thrashed and schooled.

it's so much fun watching him flailing about the thread getting his ass kicked left and right. and like a good bush bot, he doesn't know when to shut the fuck up.

[hellhathnofury]

40. Poor bastards. They'd make good Manchurian candidates.

[Logansquare]

41. They'd make good cannon fodder, too

But I'm sure none of them have gotten around to enlisting...

[RainDog]

36. make sure you go here and rate this story

to keep it in front of the American people, no matter how hard the republicans try to bury the truth.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&e=2&u=/nm/20040112/ts_nm/bush_oneill_dc



"In the 23 months I was there, I never saw anything that I would characterize as evidence of weapons of mass destruction," O'Neill told Time magazine in a separate interview. "There were allegations and assertions by people... To me there is a difference between real evidence and everything else."


O'Neill also raised objections to a new round of tax cuts and said the president balked at his more aggressive plan to combat corporate crime after a string of accounting scandals because of opposition from "the corporate crowd," a key constituency.


O'Neill said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) that growing budget deficits -- expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone -- posed a threat to the U.S. economy.

[grannylib]

42. Check out this quote from someone called "Crawford Crawfish" and it's

clear that he/she indeed DID crawl out from under a rock somewhere:

"If the Iraqis did not sit on this reserve that they did not work for, Americans would have already developed it! Americans work while Iraqis sat around on this energy source that could have done so much for people.

The oil belongs to whoever that can make the most use out of it. It is God's oil and it is for doing God's work, not for feeding the evildoers' power hunger. "

God's work???? Really?
And the power hunger of the evildoers in this country? Hmmm??