I have never been so mad at DU

[AlecBGreen]

In case you missed the Top 10 Idiots, heres an excerpt from #10:

Still, since the Club for Growth has seen fit to run this ad, we now feel much more comfortable about telling them to keep their pitchfork-hoisting, hoedown-attending, moonshine-drinking, tractor-driving, dungaree-wearing, banjo-playing, pig-fucking, Clinton-penis-obsessing, right-wing freak show out of our primary process. See you next week!

FU DU. I am a southern Democrat and damn proud of it. For the record pig-fucking IS disgusting, the GOP does obsess about Big Dogs penis and this country is a right-wing freak show. However, you should know that I farm for a living by hoisting a pitchfork, I love hoedowns, moonshine is great, we own a tractor, my mom bought me dungarees for Christmas, and bluegrass music is divine. Fuck you for labelling me with your stereotypes. THIS IS WHY WE LOST THE SOUTHERN VOTE. Sorry if this is a rant and sorry I dont have anything substanial to write about, but this is seriously the angriest I have ever been in a long time.

edit: I also believe in God and read my Bible. Do you want to attack me on that one too?

[Rowdyboy]

1. No baby, you misunderstand

They want our vote, they just don't want our imput...We're obviously too fucking stupid to know very much-after all, we're southern

[Selwynn]

2. Well, there's 1.

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[jsw_81]

8. KevorkiDean?

That's pathetic. Prediction: Howard Dean wins the Missouri primary.

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[hellhathnofury]

26. Your new, I suggest reading the rules. Name calling is a no-no.

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[hellhathnofury]

53. They did it in humor. Plus it's a guest writer.

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[w13rd0]

4. So, you don't like being stereotyped?

Guess what, neither do we...

[jsw_81]

5. Calm down

It was just a joke. Can't you take a joke?

[Goldom]

6. of course, if you read it in context,

you'd see it was sarcasm making fun of their stereotyping.

[alexwcovington]

7. Yeah, the DU staff are urban elitists

It's hard for urban northerners to relate to the rest of the country sometimes. As a relatively rural northerner I agree, they're way out of line.

[GephardtClark]

9. WHEN Dean gets his head handed to him

Very soon in the primaries, they will begin to see the light. I'd bet dollars to donuts that he bolts and goes third party the little snot nose.

[Andy_Stephenson]

16. I don't think "Dean will be handed his head"

But I can state for a fact Gephardt will.

[jsw_81]

18. Who's going to beat him?

Gephardt? Nope, he's going down in Iowa. Kerry? Nope, he'll be finished in New Hampshire. Ditto Lieberman. Clark and Edwards will withdraw after their stinging defeats in South Carolina. So who's going to stop Dean? Kucinich? Sharpton? Frankly, I like my guy's odds.

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[hellhathnofury]

28. I intend to vote Democraitc.

Don't question my loyalty, less I question yours.

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[hellhathnofury]

38. self-censored. Inappropriate.

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[hellhathnofury]

44. Don't question my veracity ever. I'm a loyal Democrat. Are you?

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[jsw_81]

52. Yeah, Dean is really going down in flames

He's leading in every poll, raised more money than any Democrat in history, picked up several high-profile endorsements, and attracting crowds of thousands everywhere he goes. He's toast.

[indigo32]

43. What does this thread have to do with DEAN?

Nothing at all. So just leave him out of it.

[Beaker]

10. yee-haw.

y'all come back now, y'hear...?

BTW-
Al Gore could have won WITHOUT the South(New Mexico is not really "the south") had Nevada not fallen for the Lil'Dictators Yucca Mt. lies, Gore wouldn't have even needed Florida.

The census has changed the math a little bit, but it's still very possible to win the Presidency without "the South".

[jsw_81]

17. Indeed

Dean can win the election even if he loses every single southern state. All he needs are the Gore states plus NH and AZ (or NV). All this stuff about the south being "crucial" for Democrats is a bunch of hogwash. We beat George Bush without the south in 2000, and I'm sure we can do it again in 2004.

[Leilani]

20. But why would you want to win WITHOUT the South?

If the Dems are ever going to get back into power, they have to compete all over the country; it's silly to write off an entire region.

Just like it's silly to write off entire groups of people...keep doing that & no one is left.

[hellhathnofury]

30. We're not writing them off.

I'm just sick and tired of South this South that. The West needs some respect.

[jsw_81]

50. Not to mention New England

New England is filled with progressive, tolerant people, it's home to some of our finest universities (Harvard, Yale, MIT, Brown etc.), several wonderful, thriving, historic cities, and has magnificent scenery. Yet when it comes to presidential politics New England is considered taboo and we're all supposed to be ashamed of how liberal it is. Well screw that! New England rocks!

[Beaker]

35. Because NASCAR sucks,

country music sucks, and "Deliverance" should have won an Oscar in the Documentary category.

and oh yeah- it'd be nice to have a President that spoke English for a change- Southern accents really drive me up a wall. they just sound....ignorant.

[AlecBGreen]

36. ahh Beaker

the drawl of a southern girl...its a thing of beauty!

[Beaker]

41. sorry...no.

it's never done it for me.

a southern accent can drop a "10" to "6" in less than 3 syllables.

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[stevedeshazer]

11. I've done all those things, too

Except the pig part, and the Clinton-penis part and the RW freak show part. I'm a Westerner, though.

I see your point, but I wouldn't expect it to change much. There is definitely an anti-rural bias here.

[corporatewhore]

12. But dontyou know everybody in the south is an ignorant racist

who fears folks who have had some book learnin' and we all have confederate flags on our pick up trucks

[wtmusic]

14. Yep, pretty offensive

:(

[Wonk]

15. This thread will be locked or moved to ATA in 3.... 2....

[AlecBGreen]

19. i dont want a flame fest

i want EVERYONE here at DU (mods, yankees, suthnas', western folk, freepers, europeans, EVERYONE) to understand that the Democratic party is a big tent. Thats the defintition of Democracy ... EVERYONE is allowed a say, not just volvo-driving latte-drinking intellectuals. And just so you know, i love a good cuppa joe, I drive a Volvo (305K miles baby) and I am intellectual to a fault. Dont label me just cause your pissed at the South. And in regards to the post that says we dont need the southern vote to win the WH, your right, electorally speaking. But if you ignore a third of our country just because you can then I say you are no better than Bush. Thats right, you heard me...

[mike_c]

21. oh my god....

The democratic primary process has devolved into "my lifestyle is better than your lifestyle" and "you're picking on me because I'm southern/northern/eastern/western/midwestern/southwestern." Get a grip. As a native rural southerner who's lived in the northeast and the far fringes of the left coast, I think there are more important fish to fry than whose regional sensibilities are the most tender. This is becoming very disgusting. If ya'll want to take your toys home and play alone, be my guest. As my grandma used to say, "don't let the door smack your butt on the way out."

[AlecBGreen]

27. i have a grip

im tired of seeing hard working neighbors being bashed just because they vote Repug. I hate the GOP. I dont hate everyone who votes for them. I merely raised this issue because it angered me and I have a right to voice my opinion. The south went GOP b/c of segregation. Will we get it back by labelling them ignorant slobs who cant get a decent job or make a "correct" vote?

[Zomby Woof]

31. read post #6 again

The author of the Top 10 List was MOCKING the way the RW used Democratic party stereotypes in their ad. Holding up a mirror and saying, "See how absurd you are?" Satire!

Did you ever read MAD Magazine growing up? It's like the primer for understanding this stuff.

[mike_c]

47. here's a true story....

I did my doctoral research at the University of Georgia studying the ecology of the southern pine beetle. For several years I gave a seminar about that research that started with a wonderful cartoon of a beetle wearing coveralls, with a decidedly red neck, an MF baseball cap, and a wad of tobacco in his cheek, spitting into a dixie cup. I gave that seminar at southern universities, northeastern universities, northwestern universities, and at national meetings, and the "southern" pine beetle slide always got a good laugh, lightened the mood, etc. Bear in mind that I'm a Georgian so I've got some street cred concerning southern sterotypes.

Then one day I gave the talk at Auburn. The lights were dim so I couldn't see the audience very well, but I noticed right away that NO ONE laughed at that slide. When the lights came up there were in fact numerous people sitting in the room wearing denim coveralls and ballcaps with tractor logos, spitting into cups. I don't think they were offended particularly, it's just that nobody got the joke. I certainly wasn't trying to offend anyone, and after all it was my own heritage and my own work that I was lampooning too.

It, like the top 10 article you found so offensive, was humor. We laugh the best when we can laugh at ourselves, and we're taking ourselves way too seriously when we can't be humorous about our foibles, even when they involve pig-fucking (--for the record, I've always been true to my cousin...).

[AlecBGreen]

54. hey mike_c

i agree we could all benefit from laughing at ourselves, myself especially!

UGA has a great ecology program and I considered getting my MS there but decided to go straight into business w/ my biology degree from VA Tech.

What do you do in Cali? Ill be driving through Humboldt in May/June this year...maybe we can get together and sample some local "produce" and laugh at ourselves. Whaddya think?

[camero]

22. Lighten Up

Geesh, don't be so sensitive about your region. They're mocking the Hair Club for Men (oops, I mean Club for Growth) :)

[Zomby Woof]

25. I'm a southern Democrat too

And I thought it was funny as hell. Of course, it would have been even funnier if it had substituted "cousin" for "pig" ;-)

[K8-EEE]

39. Wooohooo! A SENSE OF HUMOR!

Well all right, ZW! I'm a Valley girl if you would like to make any like, mall jokes or whatEVER....

Lots of cool southern people move to L.A.!

[Zomby Woof]

45. *gets spoon to gag K8-EEEE*

Grody! Barf me out! :puke: Ohmygod! TOTALLY.

[daria_g]

29. Alec, you are right

I don't know where the Top 10 is but that is totally out of line. Don't see what the use is by responding to stereotypes with more stereotypes. And the Club for Growth ad was <i>funny</i>! It was the most hilarious political ad I've seen! I thought the best response was humor. Still do.

[Wonk]

33. Check the DU home page. http://www.democraticunderground.com/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/04/139.html

[hellhathnofury]

34. Check the front section articles.

Welcome to DU!

[corporatewhore]

32. You should strive to be a latte drinking gap wearing Bjork listening

bmw driving coctail partying yuppie freakshow

[mike_c]

55. bjork listening goes too far, dammit....

eom

[ariellyn]

48. The Mods must be asleep

[hellhathnofury]

49. Nothing wrong with this. Legitimate complaint.

Welcome to DU!

[ariellyn]

51. Thanks

:hi:

[Moderator]

56. Locking this.

While the passions are understandable, this should be addressed to the site Administrators either by email or in the Ask the Administrators forum.