Buchanan on MSNBC now.....re: ONeill, war on Iraq

[buycitgo]

says ONeill should have WAITED til * is re-elected to release documents, make his accusations

then, idiotic, servile jackass of a host says "Saddam has never been a friend of the US," referencing Clinton/1998 act to get rid of Saddam

Buchanan says ONeill is petty, Bush may not be the smartest apple, but is a very good communicator w/public in general

Says that if Iraq war goes badly, ONeill's words may redound negatively against Bush as election cyce swings around

email msnbc

[e-mail]

Did Paul ONeill BETRAY President Bush?

[Timefortruth]

1. If the war goes badly, O'Neill's words may rebound negatively....

I sure hope Pat was kidding, O'Neill must hope very badly that this will reflect poorly on the president. That is the point.

[JHB]

2. That's Pat for ya...

...loyalty uber alles, no matter the effect on the nation.

[buycitgo]

7. yep..I caught it right when he was saying that ONeill shouldn't have......

rocked the boat, basically saying he should have done what most did under Nixon........keep their cakeholes shut

good Germans?

speaking of which, I wonder what John Dean will have to say about this.

his findlaw article way back when pretty much called for articles of impeachment, IIRC

[buycitgo]

3. who IS that guy on MSNBC?

I almost spewed when he said that bit about Saddam never being a friend of the US.

uhhhhhh, who put him in power, jerk?

who gave him about FIVE BILLION dollars worth of equipment/loan guarantees, etc., that helped build up his war machine?

where's that picture of Rumsfeld with Saddam...someone should send him a copy

[salinen]

4. Buchanan is a pigfucker.

Wait until after the election? Indeed. All truth needs to wait until after the election.

[KoKo]

5. I thought the Iraq Invasion "was" going badly? Did I miss something?

Was Buchanan supporting Bush in this discussion or trashing O'Neill.

Buchanan's starting to sound like Tweety. Says one thing one day, and another the next. His American Conservative Magazine doesn't seem like the person who appears on the Tube.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

8. Buchannan like Tweety worships at Bush's feet. They will....

NEVER bad mouth him. Buchannan has no principles, REMEMBER????

[Howardx]

12. not so true

check this

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36555

[buycitgo]

15. that's pat........xenophobia shining through

I could have written that one for him

never forget his role in highjacking the Reform Party, taking their money, then forgetting to campaign during the selection

had Perot, or his choice, been the RPCandidate, I think things might have been different

sure seems like a Pulitzer lurks out there for some enterprising journalist (are there any left?) who'd be willing to dig into THAT story

[buycitgo]

10. he was definitely siding with Bush.......BUT

as I was typing, I heard him say that there should be some sort of investo as to why we went into Iraq....not sure exactly what he said, but it's consistent with his opposition to the initial invasion.

didn't realize he was behind that magazine, but they just published a killer article from the very little known (outside DU) heroine, Karen Kwiatkowski.

why isn't SHE all over the news?

she was right there, in the OSP, knows where lots of the bodies are buried

Will Pitt's story posted here yesterday relies in large part on her knowledge, and I think he linked Kwiatkowski's oped, too.

here's her anti-neocon archive

http://www.lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski-arch.html

[underpants]

6. Dec.2004 Oh by the way the whole thing is a lie you were lied to

Yeah right.

[arcane1]

9. "Saddam has never been a friend of the US,"

oh really

not even during the 1980's, when Reagan removed Iraq from the list of terrorist-sponsoring countries, and we began the long business of selling him chemicals and germs, as well as pipeline contracts? In fact, he was a friend all the way up until Gulf War 1 was declared (we even told him we didn't care if he invaded Kuwait!)

Face it, in the context of US/Iraq relations, it was the US who first began the betrayals and deceptions, not Saddam.

Pat, you disappoint me, sir. You have been frequently a voice of reason on the right, why stop now?

[buycitgo]

11. on to Rick Francona==> National security "expert"

asswipe host refers to ONeill as "this guy!!!"

Francona, military "expert" refers to 1998 Iraqi Liberation Act, saying that the plans have been codified since then, in place since 1991

says this plan is a continuation of war on terrorism

host: did ONeill sell out the pres?

Francona: info should be out there

host: you really believe that (what an ASS!!!!)

Francona: yeah, but I don't know if ONeill was in on the right meetings.

hey! Idiot! he was a PERMANENT member of the National fricking SECURITY council. as such, he had access to more info than almost EVERYbody in the junta, you buffooon?

what kind of an EXpert ARE you?????!!!!!!!!???????

[buycitgo]

13. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!! emails

WRT to the scummily worded question re: ONeill betraying Bush:

one email said that the question should have been: did the BUSH REGIME betray the people of the united states!!!!!!!!

the other email displayed said that MORE people should come forth and tell the truth, as this has to do with why we went to war!

[proud patriot]

17. I sent them an email too .....Come on DUers activate

Don't allow the media and bush to ignore this .

it's up to us, Stand Up For America
We Can Make a Difference each one of us .

[Terwilliger]

14. I can't believe anybody on the left liked this guy

he's fringe as fringe can be, and now his Bush love-injection shots are complete.

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

16. Somebody mail that ass Buchanan the photo!

The photo of a smiling Hussein shaking hands with a representative of his ally Donald Rumsfield.

"Saddam has never been a friend of the US"
Bull.

[CatWoman]

18. oh, really?

http://www.bushflash.com/thanks.html

"Saddam has never been a friend of the US

[buycitgo]

19. Buchanan didn't say that.....the most egregious host did

question on now:

WMD search has been scaled back. does this means they're stopping the hunt?

next question:

didn't Saddam represent a danger to us and the ME since before the 1st Gulf War?

Francona: no surprise that Bush was "focused" on getting rid of Saddam; it was part of his platform.

OH YEAH? how come he didn't start talking about it til 2000 and fricking TWO?

and what was it Powell said in early 2001 about Saddam being safely contained, and representing little/no threat??????????????

quit LYING all the time, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Terwilliger]

20. asking the Bush's not to lie...

is like asking the Democrats to do something about it

[buycitgo]

21. Clark said stuff about it last night.......I'll bet they're sticking their

fingers into the wind, and see if it blows them over....

no, seriously, folks

they're too busy killing each other off

MSNBC is doing a rotation sort of deal with the ONEill story, though.

they keep doing little snips every so often.....touting another one coming up soon

WTF gives?

is this a portent of good things to come?

[buycitgo]

23. MSNBC reporter says this story OVERSHADOWS *'s Mexico trip!

they're showing a clip from 60 minutes right now

they're showing McClellan's response now, saying that ONeill has "no justification for those comments"

it was about 50-50 ONeill's comments vs. WH gainsaying

[TacticalPeek]

25. The WH itself seems to be playing fairly cautious

with how they 'answer' O'Neill. This makes me think they realize how bad this could be for them. Probably the Matalin/Hughs/Card faction is steering this now, but inevitably the Rove/Cheney axis will step in it and make it worse. HehHeh.

[peacetalksforall]

22. All the reasons...

Buchanan is a Republican who previous posed as an Independent and still clings to the option.

Buchanan worked in the Republican Party and administration.

Buchanan tows the line of the cable propaganda machines who pay him.

[buycitgo]

24. what's a good, concise, pithy question to send in to MSNBC?

one of those I listed, about Bush's betraying US is about as good as it gets, but they want more.

any ideas?

I can't think of a good, short one......too Kerry-like, I guess

[lovedems]

26. I asked, "why is the administration suddenly interested in investigations"

with the US Treasury wanting to investigate O'Neill's papers. I said they have a history of stonewalling which is evident with the Wilson investigation and the 9/11 investigation. Why are they suddenly interested in investigations, because they think this one won't make them look bad?