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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:33 PM
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I Am Outraged at NPR
Just now they replayed the article on O'Neil on NPR. The article cuts to a clip of Bush answering a question. An hour ago it was about a 15 second piece in which bush sounded like a babbeling idiot. It has been omited and was not on the same article just now when the second hour was played. I am outraged.

Thom
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:35 PM
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1. Clearly, the corporate media is protecting the clown...the wagons
are circling bigtime
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 05:56 PM
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2. In this case, media = corporate charity
NPR being what it is (fake public broadcasting).

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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 08:21 PM
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9. I agree
and once again, the begging began in the Reagan Admin. I wish Clinton had done more to stop the corporate buggering, but we had such a good economy that I guess no one wanted to tinker with it.

NPR and PBS are in their final days even giving a pretext for balanced coverage. Thank God for Moyers. I wonder how much longer he'll be able to report as he does.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:14 AM
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13. They have always been charity broadcasting (not really public)
A true public broadcaster is a seperate, non-profit corporation and is granted rights to charge license fees on the population. Hence the BBC charges a flat license fee for each TV owned, and is largely insulated from private AND government interference. Such a populist, yet independant base means that the broadcaster has almost by definition a cross between Left and Right; It HAS to reflect the population and prioritize news intelligently.

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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:02 PM
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3. They also give Cokie Roberts airtime every week
with no opportunity for rebuttal from more a more liberal voice.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:18 AM
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14. "more liberal"? Since when has Cokie taken a Liberal stance?
And if she did , what did she say that was so Liberal? Wjat do you mean "more Liberal?" She went after Clinton and propped up Bush, and never exposed Bush's lies about Iraq...
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:19 AM
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22. I think...
... the poster meant a liberal rebuttal. This is my main beef with NPR, I don't mind if they want to spin their asses off, I just want the other side of the spin to get told too.

It never is.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:08 PM
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4. There's a reason it's called Nat'l Petroleum Radio. n/t
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:21 PM
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5. I just heard the repeat of the first hour and they played the whole thing
WNYC - they played all of it. He sounds like a blithering idiot. "fly-overs, fly-betweens"
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 06:30 PM
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6. NPR =
National Poodle Radio
News Prostitutes for Republicans
National Pentagon Radio
National Parrot Radio
Neocon Pandering Republicans

I used to donate $100 per year, but their shameless shilling for the Iraq war that has cost over 10,000 lives has caused me to switch to the BBC/Internet for my news.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:07 AM
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20. Radio Enron
I am always shocked when someone tells me there is good stuff on there. A little sugar with your poison?
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 07:32 PM
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7. Wake up an smell the coffee
They are nothing but propagandists.


Kevin Klose
NPR President and CEO
http://www.npr.org/about/people/bios/kklose.html

<snip>
Prior to joining NPR in December 1998, Klose served successively as Director of U.S. International Broadcasting, overseeing the U.S. Government's global radio and television news services (1997-98); and President of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL), broadcasting to Central Europe and the former Soviet Union (1994-97). Klose first joined RFE/RL in 1992 as Director of Radio Liberty, broadcasting to the former Soviet Union in its national languages.
</snip>
_____________________________________________________________

Kenneth P. Stern
NPR Executive Vice President
http://www.npr.org/about/people/bios/kstern.html

<snip>
From 1996-1999, Stern worked with the U.S. International Broadcasting Bureau in Washington, DC, initially as senior advisor and consultant to the director before acting as director of affiliate relations, research and media training. In his positions, Stern had management responsibilities for all the subsidiaries of the International Broadcasting Bureau-Voice of America, Radio & TV Marti, and Worldnet TV-supervising the IBB's offices of engineering, affiliate relations, research and media training, policy, business development, and external affairs.
</snip>
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 08:03 PM
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8. hilarious - to hear the freeps, NPR are stalinists
or trotskyites!

sad that such a great thing has fallen so low.

pacifica news, people, pacifica news. 6 pm on KBCS in the puget sound.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 08:25 PM
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10. Freepers think Mussolini was a liberal.
:P
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kurtyboy Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:21 AM
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16. In Skagit County (WA) Pacifica can be heard on
KSVR FM, 91.7---Skagit Valley College's student-run station. Along with lots of othe progressive broadcasts in the evening hours....
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:50 AM
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25. When ....
... were the freeps ever right about anything? :) Most have probably not listened since the impeachment hearings of 1998.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 08:26 PM
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11. I'll Be Damned
In the playing for the third hour (second replay) it was back in. I am stunned.

Thom
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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 08:32 PM
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12. Call and tell them during the next beg-a-thon
why you're not giving money. Be gentle.......these folks are volunteers (dupes) but be reasoned and persuasive. Get friends to do the same over a period of a few days. Word will get around the phone pen over coffee that their credibility is in question. I don't know that it works but it's fun and there is no doubt that you can then label yourself as an activist. It's a first step and it just gets easier.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:20 AM
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15. One problem with that
They know you don't have real money to spend on them. Congress and large corporations have the only real say with them.

The cloest we will get to a public-interest broadcaster in the near future will be:

1) BBC World
2) Outfits that reject corporate donations (Pacifica?)

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fla nocount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:25 AM
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18. You're right, but that's management.
I'm after the volunteers, the believers answering the phones for donations. Also, the regional program directors who get the feed-back from the "good-citizens" in the phone-pen.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:23 AM
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17. Me Too
That's why I dropped 500+ for a good Shortwave Reciever and none for a television.

I don't trust the American Media anymore and I figure that and a DSL connection will fulfill my needs nicely.
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not systems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 12:32 AM
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19. Try Pacifica...


These are the shows archived daily...

http://www.kpfa.org/archives/

some are very interesting and will present ideas
unavailable on NPR or the other corporate media outlets.


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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 09:59 AM
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27. Pacifica is still good but they're getting funded by the same people now
Watch them drift slowly... It's going to be sad.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:18 AM
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21. I've been saying it for almost a year....
... NPR has gone the way of FOX News. Difference is, they are riding on their laurels as a formerly-serious news source.

Like a frog in a pot of water coming slowly to a boil, many just don't realize how far they've slipped. I doubt they will ever come back.

Please, find something useful to do with your donation money, NPR is a lost cause.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:26 AM
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23. wamc is good
www.wamc.org - npr at its best perhaps...
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 08:28 AM
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24. How It Works For Real
No, no theories of corporate whoredom ... just how the show is recorded:

There are often two (or more) pieces on the big story. The one in the first segment is short; the second longer (4+ minutes). The entire program is 90 minutes*; most affiliates repeat the show back-to-back, or at least the first half hour.

They did not 'put it back in;' the first piece was in the segment that was repeated. No conspiracy.

*ATC is; haven't listened to ME for ages.
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-04 09:27 AM
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26. NPR belongs to the dark side now
and has for the last few years. My radio sits silent, there was a time that it was turned on before the coffee, before the cats were fed, before the dreams evaporated.
No more, I can't listen to them, donate, or justify their existence, do yourself a favor and quit as well, get your news from an honest source.
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