Cheney's View - "Decades of War" (San Fran Chronicle -pls read)

[cthrumatrix]

Cheney's grim vision: decades of war
Vice president says Bush policy aimed at long-term world threat
James Sterngold, Chronicle Staff Writer
Thursday, January 15, 2004
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Los Angeles -- In a forceful preview of the Bush administration's expansionist military policies in this election year, Vice President Dick Cheney Wednesday painted a grim picture of what he said was the growing threat of a catastrophic terrorist attack in the United States and warned that the battle, like the Cold War, could last generations.

The vice president's tone, in a major address to the Los Angeles World Affairs Council, was sobering, unlike many other comments recently by senior administration officials that have stressed successes in the war on terrorism.

Cheney mentioned only in passing the administration's domestic policies, while saying President Bush would present a blueprint of his domestic goals in next Tuesday's State of the Union speech.

Cheney devoted the half-hour speech to a frightening characterization of the war on terrorism and the new kind of mobilization he said it demanded. He sounded the alarm about the increasing prospects of a major new terrorist attack and the extraordinary responses that are required. While many of his remarks echoed past comments by the president and senior officials, Cheney struck a surprisingly dour note and suggested only an administration of proven ability could manage the dramatic overhaul necessary for the nation's security apparatus.

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[cthrumatrix]

1. PNAC --- expansion of US bases overseas

"He also said the administration was planning to expand the military into even more overseas bases so the United States could wage war quickly around the globe.

"Scattered in more than 50 nations, the al Qaeda network and other terrorist groups constitute an enemy unlike any other that we have ever faced, " he said. "And as our intelligence shows, the terrorists continue plotting to kill on an ever-larger scale, including here in the United States."

Cheney provided no details, however, of the kinds of attacks he expected. "



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[Minstrel Boy]

2. "The next attack is coming, said Cheney to his men...

...and if it doesn't, we can make one happen again." - David Rovics, The Next Attack

PNAC, Halliburton, secret energy strategy, coordinating counter-terrorism in the months before 9/11....

There is so much on this guy. Why is he still walking free, let alone the de facto President?

[cthrumatrix]

4. Well since the US attacks are "pre-emptive" by nature and we have yet to

prove who factually did 911....all bet are off.

I don't trust this admin...Paul O'Neills book documented the choices this govt makes...the wars are by choice and everything is political.

[liberalhistorian]

10. Because an intern didn't give him a

blow job, therefore he's alright, according to the media whores. Damn that liberal media!

[Killarney]

3. And how is he going to accomplish his goals without a draft?

He can't.

A vote for Bush is a vote for the draft. We need to scream this from the mountaintops.

I've already convinced two mothers who voted for Bush in 2000 to vote Democratic in 2004 because of the prospect of drafting their sons into war.

[cthrumatrix]

6. Toomy Franks -- an attack on the US = Military Government= No Elections

[bryant69]

5. Remember, as long as we are as war

We need to treat El Presidente with respect. Only he is strong enough to protect us.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[the_real_38]

7. Fear and control...

.... that's what it's all about. Cheney is just a Nouveau Riche guard dog for the rest of the hypocritical rich who make their living off of military contracts. I just read Howard Zinn's "People's History of the United States" and it's replete with examples of this scare-the-common-folk s***. It's just a way of shielding what he and Bush are really up to - giving away the wealth and resources of the country (and other countries) to a small group of elites. They scare the hell out of people to the extent that they're willing to give up their freedom (Patriot Act) - including their freedom to change what's going on.

[LoneStarLiberal]

8. Fighting the Battles and Losing the War

So yet more years and decades ahead full of military conflict while we will still lose the war against terrorism.

Great.

When are these conservative knuckleheads going to wake up and smell the coffee (never, I know...)? You don't kill off ideas and theology with bullets and bombs. You don't kill off poverty and political repression with tanks and fighting vehicles. You don't kill off lack of educational opportunities and stagnant calcified economies with Paveways and Tomahawks.

You don't win the war against terrorism by fertilizing the ground of its homeland with American and Arab (or Persian, or Indonesian or Afghan or Uzbek) blood.

The "war against terror" will be lost until we see it for what it is as a battle of ideas. We need to articulate our ideas in response to and ahead of radical militant Islamists such as the late Sayyid Qutb, one of the most revered figures in the militant Islamic world. Ideas vs. ideas, not bombing the ever-living crap out of the general population. Ideas vs. ideas, not the ethically corrupt, corporate whoring, slickly produced Madison Avenue diarrhea that Victoria Clarke brought to the table for the State Department.

[cthrumatrix]

9. as long as they "own the media" you will hear no challenge

[fishguy]

11. War on poverty, war on drugs, war on terrorism

See a trend?!
These are things that will always be with us.
You cannot defeat "terrorism" per se.

[NewJeffCT]

12. wait a minute, didn't Cheney say we'd be in Iraq 'weeks'?

Is this the same Dick Cheney that said prior to the invasion of Iraq that we would be measuring the time the troops spend in Iraq, not in months, but in weeks?

Can somebody confirm that for me...

[BeFree]

13. I miss the 'Cold War'

Cheney is quoted:" ...the battle, like the Cold War, could last generations.
"

Hey, Dick, didn't we win the Cold War with diplomacy?
How many of our soldiers died in battles during that war?
What is it about the Cold War that you do not like? Didn't you make enough money then? Was there not enough blood shed?