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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:01 PM
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Are Bush and Rove losing their sharp edge...?
Bush goes to Texas for a few weeks and seems to lose touch with his political advisors, Rove et al, and Paul O'Neill comes out with a scathing indictment of ol' Dubya. Then he gets sent down to Mexico to meet with Vicente and comes up with a devastating plan for immigration reform that many of his supporters do not support. Then today, he is sent down to Atlanta for a fundraiser and they thought it would be a good idea to have it on MLK's birthday and kill two birds with one stone? But, everything seems to be going a little awry for the geniuses in the WH for the last couple of weeks....
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:02 PM
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1. once you're painted into the corner
it's all wet paint - no matter where you step you're defeating yourself.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:07 PM
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2. its a little odd
i've noticed it too... it's like the writing on west wing - they're trying the same style and the timing is the same and the actors are still there - but without the magic of Sorkin it just doesnt work as well. It's hard to say what it is - but there's just something not quite right in the WH these days.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:14 PM
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3. Oh let's hope so.
Some really funky stuff always seems to happen to him when he leaves the country. Remember London? Remember the Africa trip - where the Joseph Wilson chapter was opened?

Gee, maybe he oughta leave the country more often...
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:21 PM
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4. they're dealing with a lot of shit
Iraq, the economy, the Sept. 11 commission, the congressional investigations into Iraq intelligence, Plame, O'Neill, mad cow, etc.

Let's hope it snowballs. Keep adding more and more.

I think this MLK thing was a huge blunder. :evilgrin:

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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:23 PM
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5. I think O'Neill was the last nail. Then Kennedy struck as well..


They are going down. And fast. IMHO

The TRUTH is getting out into the mass mind.


Kennedy: Iraq war a political product marketed by Bush to win elections


http://www.boston.com/dailynews/014/region/Kennedy_Iraq_war_a_political_p:.shtml

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:23 PM
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6. never were geniuses
Really, these guys are bunch of clowns. Evil clowns, but absolutely not geniuses. I think Rove is way overestimated. He is ruthless, but he is not smart.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:45 PM
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11. Yes and no
I think they have dealt themselves a pretty bad hand, but I think they are counting on this next election being all about the base. IN that sense the O'Neill stuff won't hurt them that bad. The faithful will just assume that O'Neill was lying or something. And the more extreme positions the party takes will help them with the base.

Still, the center might wake up and swing towards rationality.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Snappy Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:29 PM
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7. Dubya the Dense
Dubya has no ideas. It's all Rove or Cheney.
Dubya just follows instructions.
It's just another job created by Poppa Bush.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:30 PM
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8. We are on to their MO, it doesn't work. They have reached the point
that people can predict their actions before they act. We all knew that O'Neill would be smeared, we know how they will spin. It's the same game everytime.

I don't think KKKarl is as smart as he is given credit for and more evil than we will ever know.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:36 PM
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9. Yes. And they'll lose it more and more as November
approaches
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 08:42 PM
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10. What's different is that Bush seems to think
he should actually be involved in the campaign according to an article in the NY Times earlier this week (sorry, no link)

Must be driving KKKarl nuts to have things begin to fray and Nimrod coming up with "ideas" for making things better that actually make things worse. Bet the man on the moon was his thing - didn't know we'd already been there.

To have the puppet wake up is not good for them - but good for us, I hope.
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:23 PM
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12. overconfidence due to ideological blindness
you know how they were blinded by ideology on so many occasions?

I think this may be kicking in. They may actually believe their own propaganda that Bush is invincible. That would be a really good thing.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 09:47 PM
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13. They had a sharp edge?
That's news to me. They seem to have lost control of the secret coven though.
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