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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:06 AM
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Question: "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world"
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 12:06 AM by JanMichael
"the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
George Bernard Shaw

Do you agree with this quote?

On a side note I think I'm becoming unreasonable...
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Mikimouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:24 AM
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1. I agree with Shaw, but that's just me...
by adapting to the world, we make adjustments that do far less harm than the other option. In addition, by making reasonable choices, we learn about the potential pitfalls and perhaps avoid some of them. Being reasonable requires patience, while the other is characterized impatience. Reminds me of the old quote from Dune: "...the slow blade penetrates the shield".
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:02 AM
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2. I believe it's a fine line
balanced by an even exchange of energy.

but tha's just me.

dp

The most decisive actions of our life -- I mean those that are most likely to decide
the whole course of our future -- are, more often than not, unconsidered.
Andre Gide
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:05 AM
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3. Two things
Full speed ahead
Godspeed
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:17 AM
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4. I have thought of this in the sense of the Iraq War...
It was a very unreasonable and reckless act. Will it also lead to progress? Will it become a better nation, a democracy?
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:20 AM
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5. Yes; and it goes hand-in-hand with this one by Flaubert:
To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost.

Gustave Flaubert
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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:23 AM
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6. Totally!
I agree with GBS on a lot of other things too.
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TexasMexican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 01:50 AM
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7. Is it reasonable to kill unreasonable men.
J/K
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buckeye1 Donating Member (630 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 05:28 AM
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8. Sounds like ...
Corporatism,communism or any other me first deal. When you get it count me in.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 05:42 AM
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9. Only unreasonable people move us forward
Hammurabi, Moses, DaVinci, Beethoven, Debbusy, Edison, the Wright Brothers, the founding fathers of the USA, Gandhi, Martin Luther, Martin Luther King Jr., Einstein, Philip Glass, Les Paul, etc. etc. etc.

Reasonable people don't push humanity around - they might still do amazing things, or be wildly famous, or just be welders at a mobile home factory in Sun Prairie Wisconsin who goes home at the end of the day and has a beer and a plate of roast beef with potatoes then watches 4 hours of TV and goes to bed.

Its the unreasonables that do the real work of pushing us into new - and hopefully better - horizons (though not always - Hitler wasn't very helpful, though he was unreasonable, and same with a lot of Popes, Reagan, Peron, Idi Amin, the guy who came up with Muzak, etc.)
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 06:58 AM
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10. Hmmmmm
Do you consider W and Cheney unreasonable people?
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:58 AM
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12. I don't take the quote...
... to mean all unreasonable men engender progress, and hence I agree with the quote 100%.

Not all change is "progress". And the the sad truth is that it is hard to tell the difference sometimes until time has passed.
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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:55 AM
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11. a definition of reason
would be helpful ;)
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:19 AM
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13. what is the world?
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 09:20 AM by sweetheart
Is it the freeway in southern california, across the tracks in marietta georgia?, A lovers bed in minnesota? a university campus in up state new york or the oval office?

Methinks the unreasonable person picks a world in their heart where they live, and then casts the outer world against it... were that more of such folks picked their lover's bed.

Reason is merely a construction to justify, given hindsight.

What makes a great person is which world they call home in their heart. Everything else comes of that.

BTW JM... a favorite poem in your sigline. because it is my heart... I think the poem similarly indicates this point.
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