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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 06:42 AM
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is there such a thing as a govt animal services agency or
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 06:42 AM by lcordero
something in NYC?
The stupid neighbors downstairs put out a cat overnight in this cold. It's time to pay them for their cruelty.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 06:51 AM
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1. You mean GASA ?
-just kidding a bit. ;)

I can't directly help you and the cat, sorry.

Is the cat friendly with you enough for you to save it's life?
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:06 AM
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3. I don't think so
this is the first time that I have ever seen the cat. This is from 15 feet away.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 08:45 AM
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7. There's a first time for everything
I have the two cats I do because of the first encounter between a pregnant cat and me.

If you have something to offer for survival, there shouldn't be problem.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:01 AM
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2. We had laws for animals before laws for children.
The town must have some law to protect the animals.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:28 AM
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4. Most cities
have an animal control agency which deals with animal cruelty cases. Also, your local Humane Society investigates cruelty cases. In the meantime, if you can, try to get the poor beast to come into your apartment.
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 07:39 AM
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5. I can't
My mother, brother and I are all allergic to cat hair.
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tyme Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 08:00 AM
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6. illegal?
i seriously doubt there is anything illegal about putting a cat out in bad weather. They are survivors, they will find a place to stay warm, just check your car engine before you start it in the morning.
tyme
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 09:54 AM
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8. Of course, there is.
Have you ever heard of the TV show "Animal Cops"? It is on the Animal Planet channel. The animal "cops" can arrest animal abusers just like the cops can. The original shows were all NYC. I think you would call the SPCA in NYC.

Cats, are not such great survivors if they have always been house cats and then are suddenly thrown out in the cold. They get hit by cars, starve, etc. The idea that our house cats are "survivors" is what gets so many of them dumped on the street by people who deserve to be dumped on the street themselves. After all, people are survivors, too. The cats who do manage to survive become the flea-ridden vermin who knock over your trash cans and strew garbage in the streets.
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tyme Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 03:24 PM
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11. try some common sense
I know all people who are into this animal cruelty thing love watching people being thrown in jail but try getting a little involved yourself and go over and talk to the people about the animal. Perhaps they have a plan or place for the cat. Also, i don't know the weather conditions in NYC at the time of this, if it was below 0 and there is no place for the cat, then sure, you may need to take some action. But try to be reasonable about it before calling the cops.
tyme
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 10:40 AM
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9. You've never heard of the SPCA? Society for the Prevention of Cruelty
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 10:41 AM by radwriter0555
to Animals?

And NYC has a rather aggressive animal control agency. Just call your local police station for a nearby office. But keep in mind it isn't actually illegal to have a cat outdoors.

In fact in many areas, cats aren't considered owned animals, and case work is limited to physical abuse and torture, etc.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 11:26 AM
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10. nyc does have an animal control dept., sorry, long story
but, more than likely, all it will do is come pick up the animal and eventually have it put to sleep.

there was a cat in the basement of the building that i moved into. it was very skinny, and whoever was caring for it would pop the top off a can of friskies and set it down on the floor, with an algae covered bowl of water. in the corner was a cardboard box of what was supposed to be some kind of cat litter.

the cat could never get all the food out of the can, and the litter was changed - maybe - once a week. it was almost always a mess, with cat urine running all over the floor.

i immediately started feeding her wet and dry food daily, and gave her a real litter box with scoopable litter, which i cleaned every single day. at first she was very skittish, but every morning when i when down to care for her, i would sit in a chair, pick her up and hug her, talking to her in a low, comforting voice. it took a while, but she got to where she would actually purr. she had probably not purred out of affection in many years.

there was an office in the basement that, strangely enough, had nothing to do with our building, but i asked one of the ladies who worked in it where it came from and who cared for it.

she said that they found it as a small kitten locked up in an apartment who's tenant had been evicted. they thought if they brought it here, someone would take it in. no one ever did. they cared for it (the other lady was allergic to cats, so would have nothing to do with it).

a complicating factor was that the cat would follow building workers into some of the rooms in the basement, and they would leave the room without making sure the cat was out.

i would go down to feed it and find it meowing from behind a locked door. this happened frequently in cold weather (those rooms were warmer), and sometimes over holiday weekends.

i was furious. they blamed the cat for going into the rooms. she would sometimes be locked up for four days without food, water, or litter box. all i could do was try to shove a little food and water under the door to it.

i called animal control and their response was "put it in a box and we will come get it". i asked them if they would speak to the people involved, and they said no, they would just come pick up the cat. they did say if they confirmed that the cat was being "abused", someone would be arrested.

if she was picked up, the cat was so old, and due to her living conditions, had no habit of using a litter box, no one would take her. so of course she would be put to sleep.

i continued doing all i could.

just before christmas she became very sick. i left a note for the people in the office saying she needed to go to a vet. that person left a note on my door saying she had her own children to care for, and if i wanted to take her to a vet, i could.

so i ended up having to take her to a vet. i could not afford a huge medical bill (last one was for one of my own cats, and after over a $1000, and they still didn't find out what was wrong - another story entirely), so i had her put to sleep.

i felt terrible, i was crying in the vet's office (i'm a 52 yr old man), over a cat that wasn't even mine. but she had had such a hard life. i just hope that her last couple of years were better.

so, all of that to say that new york city DOES have an animal control unit. if you call 311, they will connect you. if there is abuse involved, they may, or may not, address it.

i firmly believe that having an animal put to sleep is far better than forcing it to live a life of misery.

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