GOP students launch complaint Web site

[aldian159]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/21/students.website.ap/index.html

A bunch if CU (Colorado)college reps are saying the teachers are harrasing them with liberal beliefs. I thought the truth was supposed to be taught at public universities...

[villager]

1. here's their website...

...for your own "complaints." (or at least, the web page of the over-arching Horowitz organization spearheading this putsch):

http://www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org

[Indiana_Dem]

2. Jeez...

Whatever happened to learning about EVERY side to the issues in a balanced way according to the way I was taught things should be? Why does everything have to be so polarized? The Republicans were the ones who started all this. Maybe I'm wrong but that's how I see it.

[La_Serpiente]

3. ahhhhh

LIBRUL PROFESSORS INDOCTRINATING ME WITH THEIR MARXIST GARBAGE /end sarcasm

I don't mind if they rate their college professors. Some universities do that. However, it should not turn into some anti-intellecualism McCarthyism.

[DarkSim]

4. What utter crap.

Both sites are so obnoxious its not funny anymore.

"Only students can force leftist professors to live up to their profession’s high standards."

pitiful...

[cushla_machree]

5. hit the nail right on the head

"I think the conservative students who feel there is a bias are more afraid of hearing points of view different from their own"

i think this is an issue that liberals should not ignore. Liberal indoctrination fear tactics are used to discredit education across america. why pay taxes for public education when liberals are just indoctrinating young childrem?

this really gets me steaming. i took two political science courses in college, one taught by a liberal, and one by a conservative. the liberal encouraged discussion, and never taught HIS viewpoint. The conservative went on ranting all class, all his opinions. ANd he only taught that viewpoint.

Horowitz is not someone to ignore. all across college campuses he is igniting college republicans. how about his afirmative action ideas for teachers? All you hear about now is republican groups creating lists and complaining about liberal teachers. the problem with conservatives is they don't want to hear anything besides what they agree with. a liberal will show you both sides and let you make your own decision.

[izzie]

11. I read that Lynn Cheney was going to have this job.

Find all liberal teachers and have list of them. Now what were those lists for? I am sure someone at Yale said some thing Bush did not like at one time so they are going to get these people out. They have already, so I read, made working at NIH a party job. I saw lots of kids in college that did not want to hear anything new in college. Even in art classes they would not wish to look at modern art. I do not say you must like it but you should look at it.In the 50's they did not want you to be able to read Marx. One of the worlds new thinkers at the time and we were not to read him? Half the world was under his leaning at the time. It is also a great way to know you do not like some thing like Marx when you read him.Not opened minded people to think like that.

[Rabrrrrrr]

12. Lynn Cheney, and someone other peoples, can't remember who, posted a list

of professors who are "decidely unamerican" after 9-11. Of whom was that list made? Professors who dared to say that a) Islam is not the enemy, and b) America, because of our hurtful policies, is not without guilt in the attacks, even though professors were - I would assume near 100% - unanimous in at the same time saying that though American policies helped breed anti-Americanism, there was still no moral or ethical justiifcation for crashing planes into the WTC.

Therse professors were merely trying to put a stop to the stupid jingoistic assininity of the Shrub/republican/hater regime.

But Lynn Cheney - and remember, every time Hillary ever voiced an opinion, the reichwing went apoplectic with venom against the "sheer immorality of the president's wife voicing a political opinion" - certainly felt very confident in labeling these professors as "anti-American" and "America haters" and "dangerous to society".

That's absolutely another instance of Bush Family Bullshit(tm) that the Democratic candidate damn well better bring up in the debates, and which the DNC better include in their TV and newspaper ads, etc.

[Granite]

19. They did the same thing when they demagogued

the so-called "liberal media." They kept claiming liberal bias, and eventually got that notion into the intellectual mainstream. This forced the media to overcompensate by moving to the right, to avoid any semblance of being "unfair."

Seems to me to be the same tactic being taken vis a vis higher education.

[LatteLib]

6. If they are so wigged out

Why don't they just transfer to Bob Jone's University?

[Muddleoftheroad]

7. Isn't that the neocon response?

My way or the highway?

[LatteLib]

8. If they are only interested in their own point of view

BJU might be more to their liking. The way I interpreted the article, they felt they shouldn't be exposed to liberal ideas in their classes, only conservative. Maybe I misinterpreted it.
I am not sure how you came to the conclusion "My way or the highway" from my post. Would you please clarify that for me. TIA
:-)

[cushla_machree]

18. they could transfer

but i think its more of a case of them no wanted ANYONE to be expose to teachers who may or may not teach liberal ideas. We are supposed to somehow believe that if they starting filling these schools with conservatives they wouldn't be biased. R-I-G-H-T. I think we all would know what would happen, classes would just be conservative diatribe. I think the main problem liberal arts schools are full of liberals is that colleges are a place for learning new ideas and discussion. we all know conservatives are against that. you can't have a teacher who only thinks in black and white to teach a course with creative discussion, sadly conservatives just lack creative thinking skills.

a biased complaint may be valid, because i am sure there are many crazy liberal teachers out there who only teach their view, but that is a hallmark of a bad teacher, not a problem of "liberal indoctrination"

[Old and In the Way]

9. Maybe thet should enroll in schools that offer conservative arts

degrees. I'm sure there must be some schools that will offer courses that conform to your wishes rather than expose you to the truths.

It just wouldn't be worth much.

[pstokely]

15. they should transfer here

http://www.liberty.edu/StudentAffairs/index.cfm?PID=1417

[Rabrrrrrr]

The Demoratic problem is exposed here -

One of our major problems - perhaps THE problem - is that we, the Democratic Party, have never seriously considered the necessity of taking seriously the stupidity of the republican mindset. And thus, we have no party platform rebuttals and ideology to disparage and show as false such idiocy as this.

The Democrats say to themselves, "We don't need to worry about defending ourselves from people who think the earth is 5,700 years old" (or pick whatever ignorant Republican soundbyte du jour happens to be in your neighborhood) when in truth, one of our big problems is that we don't recognize the fact that there IS a significant portion of the population who believes that stuff.

If we would take the hard-core Christian literalists seriously, I think we'd win a lot of them over.

[Rabrrrrrr]

10. duplicate post

But since I have this free space in which is entirely mine now, let me say "Go Democrats!!!!!!!!"

Screw Shrub. We need him out of power, and we need his party out of power, so that we can rebuild this country.

[Loonman]

13. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen

Stupid College Republicans.

[creativelcro]

14. Go there and submit bogus complaints. it's fun.

[pnb]

16. Personally, I don't see the problem

The students can log whatever complaints they like...if the complaint is invalid, it will go nowhere anyway. If it is valid, then what is wrong with complaining about it?

I guess it comes down to what is considered right or wrong in their eyes.

[Mari333]

17. send them army enlistment forms

Have them put their asses on the line for the Boy King. That will shut them up fast.