Skull and Bones discussed on Democracy Now...

[Puglover]

Amy had Alexandra (can't remember last name) on discussing her new book about this secret society from Yale. Both Bunnypants and Kerry are members....
If these guys are running for president should they be questioned about it and what it's purpose is? As the author says, democracy requires some degree of transparency and if it turns out to be Bush v Kerry is it appropriate for both of them to be members of this secret society and NOT discuss it?

[SpiralHawk]

1. Speaking of skulls...

This is a golden opportunity for me to repost my observations upon the "skull" omen of May, 2003 -- specifically, when the skull of the Old Man of the Mountain collapsed in NH, sending shudders through the Granite State.

With the NH primary in full swing, and questions about Bush's AWOL record again surfacing for state and national attention, it's time to trot out:

YE OLDE SPIRAL HAWK'S OMEN READING FOR THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY in New Hampshire

(You are welcome to copy or forward this).

High up on the flank of a massive mountain in Franconia Notch, NH -- the Old Man of the Mountain lost his face - literally - on May 3, 2003, the day after President George W. Bush paraded across the deck of the U.S. aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln, and declared "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq.

I was struck by the sequence of events. Bush parades on Abe Lincoln deck, then the Old Man of the Mountain loses face (and skull) immediately thereafter. What's going on here? Is the mountain trying to tell us something?

Bush Struts Carrier Deck in Flight Suit - May 2, 2003
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2993415.stm

Old Man Loses Face - May 3, 2003:
http://gonewengland.about.com/cs/nhhistory/l/bloldmanofmtn.htm

For Granite Staters -- and for all who had ever seen him -- the collapse of the Old Man's face was a first-class tragedy because the Old Man was a symbol of honesty, dignity, and honor. He seemed eternal.

I always thought of the Old Man's profile as embodying the same qualities as Old "Honest Abe" Lincoln, whose profile is so familiar to us from the penny. So I was deeply saddened to see him "lose face," and could not help but note that it came right after Bush pulled what was basically a PR stunt on the deck of our nation's Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier.

What right did he have to celebrate and "Declare Victory"? Hundreds of our soldiers have died and been grievously wounded since that day, not to mention the ongoing misery for their families at home and the families in Iraq.

At the time I was inclined to take this monumental loss of the Old Man's face in the Granite State as some sort of cosmic sign that the heavens frowned upon Bush's hollow boasting, especially since the honor of his own military record is very much in question.

After all, as we now know the Iraq war is based on made-up stories. Iraq had no WMDs, and no connection to the tragedy that befell America on 9/11. This is apparently a war of aggression and conquest. That's why our young men and women have their lives on the line in Iraq. it has little to do with our national defense or our true honor. It has a lot to do with power and oil.

Now that I have read Sevethson's essay about the candidacy of John Buchanan in the NH Republican primary, I see things in a different light. I see the loss of face of the Old Man of the Mountain as a possible omen that G.W. Bush may well lose face before the voters of NH.

Will Bush be surprised during the NH primary? We shall see.

Here's Seventhson's discussion thread on the NH Republican candidacy of John Buchanan against G. W. Bush.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=980708

Buchanan's campaign -- and his research -- are sincere, and worthy of every voter's consideration.


John Buchanan “Campaign Manifesto”
Issues, Questions & Answers -- January 1, 2004

WHY I’M RUNNING

A CHALLENGE TO
THE PRESS & THE PUBLIC.

Web site at http://www.johnbuchanan.org

[Fla_Democrat]

2. Robbins

Alexandra Robbins

She (or someone claiming to be her, with the internet, ya never know for sure) was actually here for a brief time.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/cgi-bin/duforum/duboard.cgi?az=show_thread&om=15294&forum=DCForumID60

If you wanted to read it.

[Puglover]

3. Hey thanks....

I found the whole conversation pretty interesting. I'd love to hear Dean or Edwards ask Kerry about this in a debate or in open forum. Quite frankly these "secret societies" creep me out.

[SheilaT]

4. Go to the Democracy Now website and listen to the piece.

www.democracynow.org and click on the links to listen to the program for 1/22/04. Skull and Bones may perhaps be a harmless little group, like any fraternity or sorority, but I doubt it. The degree of secrecy its members practice is genuinely scary. And lots of people in the top of Government have been members. Alexandria Robbins has had her career threatened for revealing "secrets" of S&B.

Go now and read the transcript or listen to it.