Canadian DUer party identification poll

[Minstrel Boy]

Poll question: Canadian DUer party identification poll

Inspired by this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=1051908

Which is your team?

[Parrcrow]

1. Have to admit as well

that its kinda nice to sit with an Alliance member coworker talk politics and neither one of us ever even consider calling the other a traitor

tsk tsk tsk shamelessly pro-Canadian

[Minstrel Boy]

2. Why is this man laughing?

:)

[Screaming Lord Byron]

3. NDP, to the surprise of absolutely no one.

[TrogL]

4. card-carrying Liberal here

but you knew that

[Screaming Lord Byron]

5. Also a member of the united front against Canadian neo-cons

Because more divides us from them than us from each other.

[Holly]

9. Well said

throughout the election season, we must never forget those words.

[Minstrel Boy]

10. Agree. And I think whichever side we're on,

we won't be terribly disappointed with the outcome of the election, because the least likely outcome is a Conservative victory.

However rightward I see the Liberals moving, and whatever Martin's concessions to Bush, there's still no mistaking them for Republicans. And if the NDP can become their natural opposition and the neo-cons are reduced to a rump, that strikes me as not such a bad political landscape.

[iverglas]

20. uh oh

And here I thought a card-carrying Liberal was a member of that united front of Canadian neo-cons, kinda by definition.

Still do, of course. "Neo-con" ("neo-liberal" in the rest of the world) is a designation referring to economic ideology, and it's the one that fits the Liberal Party's economic policies as designed by Paul Martin in the past. I haven't seen much reason to think he's changed his spots.

There's certainly more that divides me from the Liberals than that unites me with them.

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[Cascadian]

6. If I were Canadian , I would be NDP

or a Trudeauist Liberal. Very left of center (or centre!) :-)


John

[SeveneightyWhoa]

7. I chose Liberal but am considering NDP...

..although I'm turned off by their full-on socialism. Something between today's current NDP and Liberal parties would be perfect.

The Liberals are going too far right and are becoming much less "Canadian" than before, and more "pro-American" (ie. giving up our sovereignty). Appointing David Pratt (who was pro-Iraq-war) as Defence Minister and now giving into Star Wars, are just horrendous moves.

[Flightful]

14. Consider again

The NDP governed Ontario from 1990 to 1995 and it was an unmitigated nightmare- the recession they precipitated lasted for nearly five years.

[Minstrel Boy]

15. Reading your post one might think

Bob Rae was leading the NDP and not Jack Layton, or that the party had never formed successful and popular provincial governments. Or do you also judge whether the Conservatives are fit to govern by the standard of Grant Devine's misrule of Saskatchewan, and the Liberal Party by Gordon Campbell's of BC?

Rae inherited a financial mess from Peterson, and his Third Wayism disinclined him to seize the opportunity power afforded for the Left in Ontario. How unlike Mike Harris, who seized his moment to impliment a radical, right-wing agenda. But which was the greater nightmare, "Rae Days" or the "Commonsense Revolution"?

Jack Layton is no Bob Rae. And if Rae were to run today, undoubtedly he would be more comfortable running as a Liberal.

[iverglas]

16. or

that the Ontario NDP government actually did "precipitate" a recession.

Damn, would that we had that power -- maybe we could try precipitating world peace and an end to hunger next time.

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[MrPrax]

18. Good point about Bob Rae!

The Media was dead set against him from day one (look at old Globe's?)...the Americans and their corp pals on Bay Street readied the knives early...(bogus crap about nationalizing OntarioPower nonsense)

Remember the underreported 'Heritage Front' fiasco?
The idea was to have the Nazis stage a huge riot at the legislature and then embarass the Rae gov't...rem the Cretin just got in and 'slashed' the cig tax for--hemhem--undercut organzied crime!! and robbing the Ontario budget of billions

Dirty tricks galore during his time in office...

But RAE should have stuck to his guns and nationalized car insurance and set up a dental plan like promised...he bailed on those promises early and often.

Social democrats have to get their heads out of their asses and start taking their mandates as seriously as the 'monsters' like Harris, Lougheed, Klein, McKenna, Gordo (currently) Charest...etc etc...

[Holly]

8. A Liberal here

and a proud Canadian.

[Hand]

11. NDP...

I'm an immigrant (aka exile from the USA); cast my first vote in 1994 and helped elect Nova Scotia's first Afro-Canadian MP! And an NDPer!

:toast:

[iverglas]

12. late to the party

hahaha. Had the computer turned off over the weekend.

Joined the party (the NDP, of course) in 1969. Lapsed - intentionally, like a good lefter-than-NDP purist - and had to rejoin a few years later when they asked me to be a candidate. Kept the membership up ... had to run in a couple more elections ... then I lapsed unintentionally a year ago without realizing, when my stupid credit card changed expiry dates and I didn't pay attention. So I got to vote for Jack last year, but I didn't get to vote at my riding's nomination meeting for the upcoming federal election. Durn. But I've renewed, and it didn't matter.

Voted Tory once -- federally in the early 70s, in a no-NDP-hope riding, to vote anti-Trudeau Liberal. Voted Liberal in the last Ontario election, in a little-NDP-hope but pretty predicably Liberal riding, just in case too many of my idiot fellow citizens took the local ex-Conrad Black rag's advice and voted Tory, and it really was an anything-but situation of course. (Ya gotta wonder at what a blind ideologue a publisher/editor would have to be, to recommend voting Ontario Tory in a Liberal riding in 2003.)

So here's a bump, for any other Cdns who missed this on the weekend. There are more votes than posts, and I'm still curious about who's who.

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[Minstrel Boy]

13. I consider myself an old Waffler too, though I was only nine

when the Manifesto was issued. Ah, the heady days of ideological purity, when Stephen Lewis was on the right of the party! :) A few years later, I moved on to the Maoist Canadian Liberation Movement. (Milton Acorn's still my favourite poet.) With the exception of my first vote, which went to a hopeless CP(M-L) candidate, I've always voted NDP. Never with more enthusiasm than I will this Spring.

[MrPrax]

17. Dems...

but I hate them...

But they are looking good for a sell-out social democratic party so HEY I'm in...Jack's great (even if he looks like a porn star from the 70s!!!)

And it will kept Hurtig, Barlow and Buzz quiet about a NEW alternative for awhile...

Go Orange Go

[SidDithers]

19. I've been federal Liberal ...

and provincial (Ontario) NDP. Voted McGuinty last election just to make sure we didn't see any more of Eves / Harris, but will probably go back to NDP for the next provincial.

Sid

[Mass_Liberal]

21. please go check out my post

I'm in need of help

[ironflange]

22. I chose Liberal

But I'm waiting to see how the spring campaign goes, I want to see what Layton is made of.

Anyway, I'm in Stephen Harper's riding, so it doesn't much matter who I vote for. :evilfrown:

[Screaming Lord Byron]

23. Yeah, well my MP's Diane Ablonczy, who'll be there till doomsday!

ahh, Calgary, the land that democracy forgot.

[canuckagainstBush]

24. Probably Liberal...

If I lived anywhere but Alberta, I'd vote NDP. Look at my sig line.
Lucky for me, Diane Ablonzcy won't be my MP anymore because I'm going to be in the new riding for the next election.

[iverglas]

27. strategic voting

But remember -- one more Conservative seat is one less Liberal seat.

And, when we know that the Conservatives have no chance of forming a government, that's a *good* thing.

Enough Conservative seats, and the Liberals might even get a plurality rather than a majority of seats -- and have to decide whether to form a government with NDP or Conservative support.

When there's a Liberal minority government relying on NDP support -- that's when good stuff happens.

So if you can't elect an NDP MP, vote Tory!

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[Screaming Lord Byron]

25. I think I know who the BQ voter is, but who the hell's voting Tory? nt

[RBHam]

26. NDP

All the way, everyday.

Tommy Douglas is my hero.