* Deserter, Desertion *

[TruthIsAll]

The question is no longer if Bush was AWOL. That's a fact. And it's bad enough.

The question is: was he a deserter? What constitutes desertion?

Read the definitions. Draw your own conclusions.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/d147.htm

* Deserter, Desertion *

DESERTER - One who abandons his post; as, a soldier who abandons the public service without leave; or a sailor who abandons a ship when he has engaged to serve.

DESERTION - An offence which consists in the abandonment of the public service, in the army or navy, without leave.

The Act of March 16, 1802, enacts that if any non-commissioned officer, musician, or private shall desert the service of the United Staies, he shall, in addition to the penalties mentioned in the rules and articles of war, be liable to serve for and during such period as shall, with the time he may have served previous to his desertion, amount to the full term of his enlistment; and such soldier shall and may be tried by a court-martial and punished, although the term of his enlistment may have elapsed previous to his being apprehended or tried.

By the articles of war, it is enacted that 'any non-commissioned officer or soldier who shall, without leave from his commanding officer, absent himself from his troop, company, or detachment, shall, upon being convicted thereof, be punished according to the nature of his offence, at the discretion of a court-martial.'

By the articles for the government of the navy, it is enacted, that 'if any person in the navy shall desert to an enemy, or rebel, he shall suffer death;' and 'if any person in the navy shall desert, or shall entice others to desert, he shall suffer death, or such other punishmemt as a court-martial shall adjudge.'

[SoCalDem]

1. Wasn't he a "commissioned" officer?? Would that make a difference

He also defied orders.. (take the physical.. pee in a cup)..

We need a perfect definition.. I guess Wolfie can't believe it.. He actually looks like it's the first time he's heard about it.. Could it be because everyone IGNORED IT LAST TIME????

[The Night Owl]

2. U.S. Code Section 885. Art. 85. Desertion

Section 885. Art. 85. Desertion

(a) Any member of the armed forces who -
(1) without authority goes or remains absent from his unit,
organization, or place of duty with intent to remain away
therefrom permanently;
(2) quits his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent
to avoid hazardous duty or to shirk important service; or
(3) without being regularly separated from one of the armed
forces enlists or accepts an appointment in the same or another
one of the armed forces without fully disclosing the fact that he
has not been regularly separated, or enters any foreign armed
service except when authorized by the United States;
is guilty of desertion.
(b) Any commissioned officer of the armed forces who, after
tender of his resignation and before notice of its acceptance,
quits his post or proper duties without leave and with intent to
remain away therefrom permanently is guilty of desertion.
(c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert
shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by
death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but
if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by
such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/casecode/uscodes/10/subtitles/a/parts/ii/chapters/47/subchapters/x/sections/section%5F885.html

[madrchsod]

3. doesn`t really matter what you

call it. he was a coward . the president of the united states was a coward during the Vietnam war. he didn`t do this duty, not for political reasons or religious reasons-he was a coward. i hope to god every national guardsman's realize that a coward has sent them to their deaths.
this is why the rove Whitehorse is so darn scared it`s hard to defend a coward. he`s running against veterans who were there and put their lives on the line. they were not cowards in the face of the enemy.

[ComerPerro]

4. Its not just a matter of him being a coward

Many people chose not to serve in Vietnam, some because they didn't believe in it and some because they were genuinely afraid.

The reason Bush is a huge asshole is because he got an easy out and didn't even bother to show up for that. And, to make matters worse, he is posing as a hero and a "Navy Elite Aviator" now. He is pretending to be a war hero, and now he is pretending to be a leader.

This is the real outrage about the AWOL issue

[jansu]

5. FINALLY SOMEONE IS USING THE CORRECT TERM!

--
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act". George Orwell

I researched the AWOL rumors near the end of the election year of 2000, and found that he was AWOL, (as that is up to 30 days), but that he was also a Deserter. After Bush was in office, I started sending this information, (with the links to the military's own pages on this), around to every site and person, that I came across, who used the term AWOL. It has taken this long for someone (Moore) to bring it into the main area of the internet and now the mainstream press....although I was surprised that Jennings mentioned it by name.
It is every American's duty to call people out for using terms which are not true or "reporting" a falsehood! If enough of us do this, they will have to change their tactics! They will have to become reporters again and do the research.....hopefully, this will make our news really truthful!

We now need to be writing and calling to demand that our "news" media investigate this allegation and report to the American People. Let's not let this slide back into a burp on the radar! This is important!

Desertion is a Felony, and a Felon CAN NOT serve as President! Especially, an acting President who acts like a military man on air craft carriers....and send our troops into an unneccessary and unwanted war, who deserted his military post during time of war!

"TRUTH IS A VIRUS" -------SPREAD IT! ©susanstrouss

[Skittles]

6. HEY JANSU

WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG TO GET HERE ??? :hi: