Would you vote for this presidential candidate?

[no name no slogan]

Poll question: Would you vote for this presidential candidate?

Here's more info about him:

* Supports passing a "livable wage" law that would ensure every American gets paid a wage that s/he can live on.

* Has a secret plan to end our current unpopular war.

* Supports reform of our healthcare system, so that all Americans are insured. This does not necessarily mean a state-run healthcare system, however.

* Wants tougher environmental legislation to ensure the future of our planet.

* Believes in a strong national defense, but he still wants to engage in dialogue with our enemies to work toward peace.


Well, would you vote for him?

If you would, CONGRATULATIONS! You've just voted for Richard Milhous Nixon, circa 1968/1972!

I just goes to show how far right our "left" party has become in 30 years. Very sad, IMHO.

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

1. Can I take a guess?

I think your referring to Richard Milhous Nixon in 1968.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

7. more liberal on the economy than Clinton

or most of the candidates running. More liberal on the economy than JFK.

[no name no slogan]

11. Very good guess! THE ANSWER IS NIXON!

The above points were part of his 1968 and 1972 platforms. As a matter of fact, his "health care reform" led directly to the creation of HMOs, instead of a national health care system like the rest of the industrialized world's.

It's pathetic that today that these positions would be considered "moderate" to liberal-- for DEMOCRATS.

Also note, the Yes votes were leading the No votes before I posted this comment.

[Amager]

2. First a question.

Why a "secret" plan to end the war? Why can't this candidate share some details?

[right is wrong]

4. no secret

DK has been very open about his plans to involve the UN, especially in controlling Iraq's oil.

[Amager]

16. Well it's not DK, but I'd have to say "other"

I didn't vote. i wouldn't vote for a candidate with just a once look over of a few stands such as this without seeing him speak and studying him for a while, as well as researching his credentials.

I need to see him speak, several times, watch his demeanor, and decide whether he comes across as credible to me. I also need to know what party he is affiliated with!

[newyawker99]

24. Hi right is wrong!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[overground1]

3. The big Kucinich banner gives you away

BTW, I voted "NO".
The biggest reason was the "secret plan" for ending the war.
Truman had a "secret plan" for ending WWII that involved dropping 2 atomic bombs.

I'm not a big fan of secrecy.

[no name no slogan]

6. It's not him, though. (nt)

[Eric J in MN]

9. Kucinich says, "I have a ten-point plan for ending the war on

Kucinich says, "I have a ten-point plan for ending the war on my website."

I've never heard him call it a "secret plan."

http://www.kucinich.us/bringourtroopshome.php

"The following is the only detailed plan from any candidate for President that will quickly bring all U.S. troops home from Iraq.

1. The United States must ask the United Nations to manage the oil assets of Iraq until the Iraqi people are self-governing.
2. The United Nations must handle all the contracts: No more Halliburton sweetheart deals, No contracts to Bush Administration insiders, No contracts to campaign contributors. All contracts must be awarded under transparent conditions.
3. The United States must renounce any plans to privatize Iraq. It is illegal under both the Geneva and the Hague Conventions for any nation to invade another nation, seize its assets, and sell those assets. The Iraqi people, and the Iraqi people alone must have the right to determine the future of their country's resources.
4. The United States must ask the United Nations to handle the transition to Iraqi self-governance. The U.N. must be asked to help the Iraqi people develop a Constitution. The U.N. must assist in developing free and fair elections.
5. The United States must agree to pay for what we blew up.
6. The United States must pay reparations to the families of innocent Iraqi civilian noncombatants killed and injured in the conflict.
7. The United States must contribute financially to the U.N. peacekeeping mission.
8. The United Nations, through its member nations, will commit 130,000 peacekeepers to Iraq on a temporary basis until the Iraqi people can maintain their own security.
9. U.N. troops will rotate into Iraq, and all U.S. troops will come home.
10. The United States will abandon policies of "preemption" and unilateralism and commit to strengthening the U.N.

[economic justice]

5. I know!!!

He has already BEEN president, right?

[Egnever]

8. First one is a pipe dream and disqualifies him immediately

Whoever that may be.

The first thing proves him/her a panderer

[no name no slogan]

13. Yeah, that Nixon, what a dreamer....

That's what makes Howard Dean look like such a liberal today, although he'd probably be more at home in the Rockefeller wing of the Republican party.

[Egnever]

20. Aparently nixon was a lying bastard

And the people sucked it up just like it looks like they are doing this time.

[no name no slogan]

23. If they're politicians and they're talking,

chances are there's going to be a lie that comes out some time.

But, OTOH, Nixon did sign the Clean Water Act into law-- more environmental legislation than Clinton passed in eight years. He also made an attempt to truly reform the health care system, too.

And, his plan to exit Vietnam involved sending in more American troops, expanding the scope of the war into Cambodia and Laos, and the carpet bombing of not just South Vietnam, but North Vietnam, too.

The parallels between Nixon's "secret plan" and those of most Democratic candidates are quite disturbing, if you look at them.

[overground1]

10. no, it doesn't show how far right we've gone

it only shows how far left Nixon actually was.

[no name no slogan]

17. Nixon a "leftist?"

Better not tell Eugene McCarthy, Bobby Kennedy, Hubert H. Humphrey Jr. or even Nelson Rockefeller that, though.

It's truly pathetic how the "party of the working person" has become indestinguishable from the party of big corporations in just over 30 years.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

12. I knew what your answer was when you said....

....Has a secret plan to end our current unpopular war.

It's amazing America fell for that BS in 1968.

[no name no slogan]

15. Yeah, too bad it cost another 25,000 American lives...

...and another few million SE Asian lives.

Don't forget, part of Nixon's "secret plan" was to bomb Cambodia, which led to the Khmer Rouge victory in 1975, and a genocide which killed several million innocent Cambodians.

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. LaRouche? n/t

[JVS]

18. NOW MORE THAN EVER!

Seriously

[flaminbats]

19. Peace with honor!!!!

[no name no slogan]

21. YES!!! FOUR MORE YEARS!

BTW love your sig banner! I have a version of that as my wallpaper on my desktop!

Yes, I am yet another musician against the RIAA! :toast:

[fabius]

22. I was going to say...

...sounds exactly like Nixon!

Aside from being paranoid and crooked. Nixon was an extremely smart politician.

Nixon would do better than Bush* even in his present decomposed state.

[LTR]

25. It just goes to show how far right the GOP has gone

Keep in mind, ther were quite a few libs and moderates in the Repub party back then. Ford was definitely closer to the middle than right.

It's rare to see GOP presidential candidates and major Repubs that left-leaning these days.

[no name no slogan]

26. What's even scarier is that it sounds "left" for today's DEMOCRATS

Some of the things Nixon proposed, like the mandatory living wage, are seen as "radical" by many so-called "liberal democrats" today-- and THAT is what's scary, IMHO.

I just proves that the "mainstream" Democrats today are even more conservative than the Republicans in the 60s & 70s.

[redqueen]

27. Very sad indeed, NNNS

Very, very sad.

:(

[coralrf]

28. That was his talk....

not his walk. Nothing clever in this post at all.

[redqueen]

30. Yes - his 'talk' was progressive / liberal - and he WON

n/t

[Dark Star]

32. I completely agree.

For one thing, the S.O.B. spent the 1950's ruining people's lives with a little thing called HUAC.:argh:

[jpgray]

29. Brilliant post

Just shows how far we've fallen. :(

31. Good post. Dean is far to the right of this guy.

I guess the party should go back to center by voting for Kucinich.

[Piperay]

33. Shows how

the repugs have become such RW nuts that now they are against all these things, too leftist for them. :argh:

[mulethree]

34. hmm same cycle as hip-huggers?

Or was that the era of bell-bottoms? Those have been out of style a few years already.

Rather depressing that the same major issues live on unresolved.