Question about fast I.D. of 9/11 hijackers...

[mike1963]

Does anyone remember hearing any explanation on how they were able to identify most or all of these guys within a couple of hours (and finding Atta's car so quickly)?

Yes I know about the claim his passport was found in the WTC rubble.
Such a miracle.
:eyes:

[Tracer]

1. The Passenger Lists.

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[RebelOne]

2. But supposedly there were not any Arabic names on the passenger lists.

[lcordero]

3. they were able to "identify" the "hijackers" through

identity fraud.

http://www.rense.com/general29/obls.htm

[Atman]

4. What about the commission yesterday

Saying examination of the travel documents of the 20 hijackers indicated that there was plenty of evidence of fraudulent passports and ID's.

Think about this for a moment, please.









Where did they find the 20 guys travel documents? I thought they were all incinerated in the crash?

I haven't read the reports in a while, but the initial rapid-find of the hijackers, complete with photographs, and the unscathed passport of Mohammed Atta fluttering to the sidewalk in Manhattan...yeah, right. That's all I'm saying.

[BlueEyedSon]

5. Link

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/puzzlePieces.html

[Lydia Leftcoast]

7. The discovery of the car at the Boston Airport

always seemed like the type of circumstantial evidence that Robert Ludlum's characters were always getting entrapped by. It was "too perfect." Anyone dumb enough to leave that kind of evidence lying around would be too dumb to pull off such a major attack.

It is also quite likely that only the actual hijacker pilots knew that these were suicide missions.

[Westegg]

19. Yeah, but...

Why would they care about leaving evidence around? They were on a suicide mission. They weren't trying to rob a bank or something...

[mike1963]

14. Interesting link as is the one it came from, at the top

I can agree with some of it and puzzle at much but there are some parts I don't find very credible. I've been a pilot and flight instructor for 40 years and can tell you that hitting a building isn't nearly as difficult as many people think. I know of a guy who had never touched the controls of a plane but was an accomplished Microsoft Flight Simulator player - by way of experiment he was allowed to fly an Airbus 320 simulator (a real, full size genuine one) and was able to successfully "land" it with no problem whatsoever. And flight attendants do not routinely check to see which passengers are sitting in their "assigned" seats. Not unless there is some dispute. I'll poke around some more, thanks.

[WoodrowFan]

6. the passport was NOT in the rubble!

They did NOT find the passport in the rubble, it wa sin Atta's car, which was not hard to find once all the passangers had been sent home!

sheesh. :eyes:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

8. But they said it was found in the rubble

and the photos they showed on the news had it looking kind of charred.

I remember from the early reporting. They've changed their story.

[veggiemama]

18. Was it Atta . . . or could it be Satan?

Here's a link to an article in "The Guardian" that says the passport was Atta's:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/september11/story/0,11209,669961,00.html

And here's a link to ABC that claims the "magic" passport belonged to one Satan Suqami:

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_MAIN010912.html

I remember reading in print about the Feds finding Atta's passport within blocks of the WTC, but I can't find an NYT, BG, or WaPo link to confirm.

[qanda]

9. Link Please

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[Soloflecks]

10. one link showing passport found in rubble

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/14/trade-ctr-rescue.htm
Latest developments

• Second arrest warrant issued

• Suspected hijacker's passport found in WTC rubble

• Pentagon hijacker met with Cole suspect, CNN reports
• Bush prepares nation for war in radio address
• Nearly 5,000 people missing or dead at World Trade Center; only 152 bodies recovered
• Pentagon death toll at 189
• Pakistan agrees to U.S.'s list of demands, sources say
• Federal authorities make first arrest, say he's associated with brother of Osama bin Laden

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1546927.stm

Passport discovery

Rescue workers sifting through the tons of rubble earlier discovered a passport belonging to one of the suspected hijackers a few blocks from where the World Trade Center's twin towers once stood.

New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik said investigators would probably be unable to identify the hijackers, because there were unlikely to be enough of their remains left to test.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

12. Found another by backtracking through linkis

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_MAIN010912.html

Only this one says that it wasn't Atta's passport but someone else's. Still, they're claiming to have found a recognizable passport that would have been inside a plane that crashed and burned at 4,000 degrees--unless the owner tossed it out a window just before impact.

[qanda]

13. I did a google search and found that

The passport "found in the rubble" was not that of Mohammad Atta, but of another "hijacker" Satam Al Suqami. http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/passport.html

[hang a left]

11. wrong

[Gin]

16. They weren't able to connect ANY dots before 9-11....but man....every

dot had a picture and a pttern the next two days. Something's not right with this picture.

[mike1963]

15. Well, it must have been someone else's then. I clearly recall hearing

reports that the passport of ONE of them was found at the WTC. Does anybody else remember this?...I really don't think I dreamed it.

[qanda]

17. Read post #13

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[buycitgo]

20. the stewardess who was on the phone spoke of the seat numbers

I heard her on the radio today (turned it off after a minute.....too grisly), but it's been said she revealed the seat numbers of the highjackers, and that went a long way to ID'ing them.

there was a thread on this the other day.

didn't they discuss that aspect?

[mike1963]

21. Okay, it seems there were various stories. I was getting second hand

information for a few days, being stuck (grounded) in Detroit. Didn't have access to a computer until they let us fly home.

[OutlawCorporatePolls]

22. no boarding gate vids that is for sure.

i dont buy anything until they show us the boarding gate video. the picture of atta boarding is from portland maine airport, not logan. no pics or video from logan have ever been made public. why?