Are We Witnessing The Biggest Cover-Up In History ??

[matcom]

Today:

Kay collapses before Congress today and maybe saves his life in doing so.....

Blair is exonerated and the BBC gets slapped for airing the truth....

Repubs are about to squash the 9/11 commission (note: the most IMPORTANT commission ever assembled (saving the Warren Commission perhaps)....

this ALL happened within ONE 24 HOUR PERIOD!!!!

i am AMAZED. i know i shouldn't be but I. Am. AMAZED.

[lancdem]

1. Kay collapsed???

My God, I've been off the Internet for a few hours and look what happens!

[MissB]

3. I think he means figuratively not literally (nt)

[matcom]

5. folded like a fresh towel

pathetic. no blame here! :grr:

[GainesT1958]

2. Amazing what they try and get away with...

When we're "not paying attention", isn't it!? :mad:

B-)

[spanone]

25. No it's amazing with WHAT THEY ARE GETTIN AWAY WITH

Right now.

[Bunny]

4. What does Father Matcom think?

n/t

[matcom]

6. haven't spoken to him yet

nothing to report except he AIN'T voting for Bush*

[salin]

20. would be very interested in hearing his reaction to this

have been offline - but I nearly choked when I heard that not only was Blair "exonerated" - but that a top BBC guy was taking the fall (fired/quit.) Big time future silencing.

[worldgonekrazy]

7. I am amazed as well

I thought the biggest doozy was Lord Hutton's "inquiry" into Kelly's death. Not only did they fail to come to the conclusion that he was murdered (much less who was responsible), they actually turned the whole damn thing on its head and blamed the BBC for airing the story in the first place! Talk about a fucking sham. I hope the people of Britain are not fooled.

[jpak]

8. Absolutely

The Senate hearing was the most blatant disgusting exercise in CYA I've ever witnessed.

Blame Clinton

Blame the CIA

Blame the French

Blame the Russians

Blame Saddam

Not one word about Cheney and the CIA or OSP.

No accountability anywhere.

Dis-gusting...

[jbfam4]

9. Yes, it is the biggest cover up in history

Interesting how Senator Byrd never got a chance to talk. Warner put Byrd's questions in the record. What a coincidence that he was called out before his turn to question Kay. HUMMMMM

I was so looking forward to Senator Byrd's comments and questions.

Regarding the extension of the 9-11 panel ....we certainly can't let the election inter fer with the truth, now, can we?

People need to wake up. I fell like only those on DU know the truth.

[rumguy]

10. What's the story on the 9/11 commission?

How is it getting squashed? I don't see how they could do this with the four New Jersey moms on their cases...

Won't this only add fuel to the speculation that * is hiding something?

I just can't see how this is good move for the rethugs...

[jbfam4]

15. WH opposes longer 9/11 probe

WH opposes longer 9/11 probe (or politics is more important than the truth)

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040128-112358-8834r.htm

WASHINGTON, Jan. 28 (UPI) -- The Bush administration said Wednesday it opposes giving a bipartisan commission more time in its investigation of the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the administration had already given the commission "unprecedented" cooperation in its probe, turning over more than 2.3 million pages of documents, giving commission members and staff more than 100 hours of agency-level briefings and granting more than 100 interviews.


The commission, created in late 2002 to examine why the Sept. 11 attacks occurred, wants a two-month extension of its mandate, carrying its work deeper into the election cycle.

[rumguy]

16. all they are asking for is a two month extension - the WH is scared

of something.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

31. This sounds like...

"White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the administration had already given the commission "unprecedented" cooperation in its probe, turning over more than 2.3 million pages of documents, giving commission members and staff more than 100 hours of agency-level briefings and granting more than 100 interviews."

...a document dump.

It's an old ploy -- during discovery in a case, one side will try to hide evidence and/or buy time by burying the opposition in paperwork. I've participated in just such dumps. 2.3 million documents is a LOT of stuff to go through, let alone use to make connections.

No wonder they don't want to extend the investigation...

[blm]

11. check this out in LBN

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=334931#335761

[Cleita]

12. David Kay is on CNN right now?

eom

[matcom]

13. Wolf Is Sucking His ASS!

i truly HATE these people

[buycitgo]

14. and wolf is absolutely BLOWING him

not asking a single skeptical question; just leading him on with softball after softball

just SICKmaking

[bleedingheart]

17. The republicans are coated in teflon...yet I feel that there has to be

an Achilles Heel....there just has to be!

[buycitgo]

18. Well......I forced myself to watch that appalling display

I can't think of a WORSE case of someone allowing himself to be a complete PAWN of the government.....even on FAUX!

after asking meekly whether it was possible that there was WH influence on analysts, to which Kay anwered negatively, Wolf just SLOBBERED unctuously over him after that.

I'm sickened beyond description by that horrid horrid bit of theater

you must read the transcripts to expereince the maximum, appalling effect of such venality

[rumguy]

19. everyone knows there was influence on the analysts and cherry-picking

of the intel used as justification. I mean, how can these people go on day-after-day with this crap...it's beyond me...it really is...

[rumguy]

21. This is all like that Leonard Cohen song

Everybody knows that the boat is sinking
Everybody knows that the captian lied
Everybody's got this quirkey feeling
Like their momma or their dad just died

I ask, how long can this farce go on?????

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. And everybody knows that

W has done a line or two.

[rumguy]

23. LOL

yep

[Karenina]

30. How DARE YOU

suggest such a thing! The only flying *fearless leader has ever done was protecting us from commies as a pilot in 'Nam. (Pssssttt DYEW...., remember Bab's words, "if you criticize my children, you're dead." ;-)

[Dirk39]

34. For twenty years of boredom?

"They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
For trying to change the system from within
I'm coming now, I'm coming to reward them
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin
I'm guided by a signal in the heavens
I'm guided by this birthmark on my skin
I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin"
Leonard Cohen

[moondust]

24. It's bigger than Iran/Contra.

Much bigger than Watergate. This one has epic proportions. Is there a Tolstoy in the house?

[qanda]

26. All I can say is

History will not be kind to the group of thugs that are now in power.

[Eric J in MN]

27. The BBC told the truth. Blair exaggerated or lied. So the BBC is punished.

Blair said that Iraq could launch wmd in 45 minutes.

The BBC said Blair was exaggerating.

So the BBC is punished.

The chairman of the BBC resigned.

Blair should resign, instead.

[jmcgowanjm]

28. Right in front of us and

1st-the Cheney Energy Task Force Report (not really)
can be found
at the Rice and UTAustin University Libraries.

A sample:
http://www.simmonsco-intl.com/files/Rice%20Global%20Forum.pdf
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=matthew+r+simmons+rice+university

Matthew Simmons was on the Task Force, he's
not bashful.
"The electricity business has also run out of almost all existing generating capacity, whether this capacity is a coal-fired plant, a nuclear plant or a dam. The electricity business has already responded to this shortage. Orders for a massive number of natural gas-fired plants have already been placed. But these new gas plants require an unbelievable amount of natural gas. supply is simply not there." < ENERGY IN THE NEW ECONOMY: The Limits to Growth, Matt Simmons[br />

[jmcgowanjm]

29. "I can simplify over ten years' work down to two sets"

These laws place harsh limits on what is
possible for us: #1 ENERGY LAWS, and #2 BIOLOGICAL EVOLUTION LAWS.
For purposes of sustainability, nothing else matters.

Jay Hanson
dieoff.org

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dieoff/message/29

[RobinA]

32. Heard These Stories

on the way home tonight. Kay's collapse in one breath and the BBC in the other. I'm with matcom. I shouldn't be amazed, but I am. How do they DO it?

[Dirk39]

33. If at least it would be covered up well enough...

to leave a small portion of doubts for us to occupy our minds. I guess I have to become a new-age-idiot like Blair and take a refreshing bath in dirt, due to the lack of fundamentalistic christians here in Germany.
"History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce."
Karl Marx)
If these poor idiots could at least offer us some more tragedy, Shakespeare style. It starts to get boring.
Is there any kind of foto of film of Poodle, where he doesn't smiles like an idiot?

Hello from Germany,
Dirk

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

35. Kerry should hold an investigation

*snicker*

[dusty64]

36. Me too.

One would think something has got to give somewhere. This house of cards can not continue to stand. Too many lies, crimes, and scandals. To think an elected President actually got impeached for a blowjob while these guys have MURDERED thousands without retribution. I'm beginning to really believe our system is permanently broken.

[Karenina]

37. And like

WHAT is "covered up?" NONE OF IT is "covered up!" It's a stinking heap of dung in the living room. It's not like their agenda hasn't been PUBLISHED!!!! Sheesh! These *scumbuckets need to be confronted in a big way. They are a serious threat to our survival.

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

39. That is what's freaking me out too - the facts have been published

already, but they can go on TV with an alternate reality and it gets accepted like the facts never even existed.

If the people in charge are never held accountable and can lie at will and ignore reality, then I suppose we could eventually end up like the Soviet Union and just collapse under the weight of false ideology and incompetence. What a sad ending that would be compared to how the country began.

[jmcgowanjm]

41. deceit is fundamental to animal communication

'It is almost as if the human brain were specifically
designed to misunderstand Darwinism, and find it
hard to believe.

The Maximum Power Principle (or "MPP") states that
all open systems (Bernard cells, ecosystems, people,
societies, etc.) evolve to degrade as much energy as
possible while allowing for the continued existence of
the larger systems they are part of. Thus, the MPP gives
direction to evolution and is consistent with modern
biological evolution theory.
 
The MPP suggests that as systems are moved
away from equilibrium they will take advantage of
all available means <[17>] to resist externally imposed
reductions in power. As the MPP suggests, we social
animals are natural-born killers.

http://www.dieoff.com/page193.htm

[Minstrel Boy]

38. "This house of cards can not continue to stand." Yes, but

who's going to knock it over?

There are no checks and balances anymore in the United States. The legislature, the judiciary, the media - they all belong to Bush.

[Aries]

40. What has worked in the past is a banking crisis

although the powers-that-be would like us to think they have that possibility covered.

We shall see. Remember "credit", as in the "credit (banking) system" comes from the Latin "credo"--I believe. Sort of reminds me of the Wizard of Oz.

[Q]

42. There has been a 'coverup' since the 2000 election...

...but those of us who have tried to spread the warning have been labeled as 'conspiracy nuts' and told to 'move on'.

- We become part of the coverup when we don't DEMAND that our representatives stop participating with the Bush* government.

[LeahMira]

44. Why are we waiting...

... for our representatives or for the media or for someone "out there" to do something?

[bobthedrummer]

43. It's like there has been a coup of some type

since 12-12-2001 IMO that's how big these cascading events are.

[Beam Me Up]

45. We are SO F**KED

Given all this, does ANYONE think there will be a fare election in 04? The current social reality perpetuated by the media is NOTHING BUT A TAPESTRY OF LIES.

How can we make it unravel??