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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 06:36 PM
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Okay, Mr. Kay, so who's the cheerleader for this ugly landgrab?
The implication--although it's so absurd that it's never been even obliquely stated--is that Hussein was such a danger that the normally peaceable cowpoke reluctantly rose to safeguard us all. The 64 Billion Dollar question is this: who started all of this crap? It wasn't the intelligence community coming to the administration with a whole passel of fears that needed to be addressed, now was it? There weren't any fears of him coming after us, were there? So who started it? It had to be the administration, hankering for someone to blast. Were they met with overwhelming evidence when they started to think about it? If so, why were all of the intelligence reports couched with qualifications? Where's the cringing fear there?

It was Junior. (Well, the people who control him, but since HE'S in charge, it's got to be him, right? They can't admit that he's not the great warrior godking.) So why'd he do it? There wasn't overwhelming evidence. They couldn't even find half-decent excuses, yet they had to do it anyway. Why?

(Oh, it's revenge, oilgreed, political advantage and the need to crush a prominent figurehead, of course, but I want to hear them dodge the question.) It's always the lies that bring 'em down.

Junior's cover was that he "had to do it", yet NOBODY out there forced him. He couldn't even find decent excuses. WHY DID HE HAVE TO DO IT?

Will someone please ask that question?

Hey, for pre-emption to work, the information has to be correct. As for the "Clinton thought so too" crap: he didn't feel it was necessary to go into a full-on war of conquest, now did he? There was no threat.

Do we have a madman who's imagining dangers and killing as he pleases, or do we have a complete liar who's on some private agendum (naw, couldn't be that...) to do as he pleases? Either way, we've got the wrong kind of person DOING AS HE PLEASES.

Come on; somebody's got to ask it.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 08:39 PM
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1. OK, I wanna know
how *THEY get to decide that the 911 "investigation" has a May wrap. Excuse me? WHO is paying the *dauphin so much more than he could earn from the public coffer to gouge it?

The corruption and insanity of the *bfee is a matter of public record. What they are doing with the power they have seized is a threat to anyone in the world who knows on which side his bread is truly buttered.
Job One is purging these *reptilian creeps.

In the famous words of Judy Tenuto, "It could happen."
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:22 PM
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2. He's the most powerful dang nobody since Louee the Sixteenth...
Mighty tidy to get to determine what they can ask you and when, isn't it?

If the intelligence community kept giving such qualified and meek estimates, then they sure as hell weren't jumping up and down and demanding that Hussein be dealt with, right? It was the Junta. The only real question is how much did they deliberately deceive and manipulate to get their way? The why is more or less academic, although it DOES provide motive. The real issue is how vigorously did they solicit "proof" from the spooks, and how much did they gin it up to get their way.

It's all a huge, obvious pattern of lies. He kept saying that he "hadn't made up his mind", yet he told friendly legislators "fuck Hussein, we're taking him out" while publicly feigning sincerity about enforcing sanctions. It's all very obvious; it just needs to be said.

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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:32 PM
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3. you'll like this
Aaron Brown, "interviewing" James Woolsey, lapped THIS one up like Jenna Jamison (sp?)

Woolsey: perhaps the administrations approach was marred by a "presentational error".....meaning that he should have placed more emphasis on what a bad bad man Saddam was. he used the Kosovo analogy/human rights abuses!!!!! to justify our invading.

what a terrible analogy, for starters......uhhhh did we go it alone there? did we even make up a majority of troops there? wasn't there danger of that pot boiling over into the rest of the region?

anyway, the point is that Brown slurped it up, exactly like the CHEAP whore that he is, never questioning a SINGLE premise of Woolsey's; only mentioning once that we may have cried wolf, and our cred may be damaged. he didn't, of course, follow up on Woolsey's pat answer
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Snappy Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:36 PM
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4. PNAC
Go to their site and all questions regarding the Axis of Evil will be answered.

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 10:50 PM
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5. Uh-yup
It's called world domination. Since it's such an odd agglomeration of soulless corporatists, extremist pro-Israelis and Christian fundamentalists, it should be called the MONGREL HOARD.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-28-04 11:03 PM
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6. BINGO, you got it Snappy
Edited on Wed Jan-28-04 11:07 PM by Sugarbleus
Let's just set aside the oil issue for a moment. There are other things imperialists want to achieve...oh, um world domination..maybe not in physical terms but certainly in fiscal terms. They have to have more "Land" in which to establish further trade and make MO' MONEY. They need to "get into" these arenas one way or another, set up bases, indoctrinate the population to conform to "democracy" and "free enterprise". These imperialists use religion to get the religious to follow and support their sinister cause, then some of the radical religious are allowed to do their work in terms of converting said conquereds while the imperialists turn their heads. For this type of conquering mentality, everything and all deeds are "right" so that they achieve their goal.
America is a dangerous country/political body with GW and his axis of evil at the helm.

:scared:


PS: I recently learned that there is a possible military base being built on one of the Malaysian/Indonesian Islands called: (sp?) Sulawesi
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