Is it possible Bush WANTS to lose in 2004?

[hexola]

I'm suggesting that BushCo. has already accomplished everything they came to town to do. These guys want to get down to making some serious cash! Having Bush in office is probably just getting in the way...

Liberal Immigration Policies...and now funding the NEA!!! Gosh - next maybe Laura will go out and re-affirm the righteousness of Roe v. Wade.


on edit: thanks!

[jokerman93]

1. That would certainly explain allot. n/t

[right is wrong]

2. Not likely

that someone so thin skinned wants to lose. I live to see the day the smirk is wiped from *'s face

[hexola]

4. Yes - but are we just buying "The Big Show"???

Somedays I feel like I'm falling for it...I think they don't care. Our disdain for BushCo. is somehow shaping and molding us. Beware.

Winning is a liability for BushCo. They will make way more dough out of office than in.

[right is wrong]

7. if they don't want to win

then who do they want to win. And can you see any inkling that this is happening?

[hexola]

11. I don't think they care...the media will decide anyway...

I think they have discounted the possiblity of Kucinich ever winning...and I think they would be comfortable with any of the others...

BushCo. just wants to get back to business...the media will pick the candidate that they think will bring the best ratings...

Look at the big shift in Iowa...totally contrived by the media.

I think the media lost faith in Howard Dean...not sure why...

[right is wrong]

12. I do think the media is sometimes more maddening than Bush.

Do you get more angry with the shameless liar, or those who coddle him?

[hang a left]

28. This subject has crossed my mind several times. Dumba**

and his handlers had to know that immigration thingy was gonna piss off his base. Come on, who else supports this guy? The polls are smelly bs. I believe that a majority of us serfs hate him. He has absolutely no chance in 04 not even with Liebold. You can see it you can feel it in the air. The elite put him there, he has served his purpose, the elite have chosen his replacement. Make no mistake he is going down...in flames. But...that is not necessarily good news.

[shooga]

22. fellow BONESMAN is picked...

easier to lose than to be IMPEACHED FOR TREASON




http://www.cyberexpose.net

[Solomon]

35. They've already made the dough. They have to win to keep all those

unlawful contracts in place and to prevent investigations into what they did.

[bluestateguy]

3. Fine by me. We'll even host them a goodbye cocktail party if it's true

Now there's a Bush Administration policy I can go along with.

[dawgman]

5. I read an article years ago about Bush's gubernatorial reign of Texas.

that stated his SOP was to run as a moderate and for the first 2 1/2 yrs rule as a hardcore conservative and for the tail end of his terms to become MUCH more centrist to leave the taste of centrism in people mouths heading towards the election and then to point to the recent past as evidence of his moderation. I think it was Ivins.

[Wonk]

6. loose - adj. - Not compact or dense in arrangement or structure

:think: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=loose

[question everything]

8. It has never been his to win or to lose

he is just doing what is told by Cheney et al

[Beaker]

9. The repukes can't grow the economy-

they only come around to harvest the bounty for the aristocracy after the Dems do all the dirty work of getting it growing.

they may also realize that they've gotten in over their heads in the middle east, but at least Poppy Smirk has been avenged, and the surplus drained.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if that's the plan- after all, his daddy threw the election in 92 to Clinton so that he and his "crew" could squirm out from under Iran-contra.

[hexola]

13. Right...and if Iraq starts going badly....

They can blame it on the sitting Democratic administration...if Iraq goes perfectly...they shine all the brighter...at this point...BushCo. can only lose...if they win 2004...

[arewethereyet]

10. or are they empowering the congressional races

by giving them a reason to go to Washington to put a little better controll on the pursestrings ?

Mars, shot down. NEA, soon to be shot down. Republican congressional types look like heros to the taxpayers for stopping some boondoggles but need help to put the leftists out of the equation once and for all.

Just a nutty thought I've been having.

[hang a left]

29. good point.

n/t

[rumguy]

14. Bush is shooting himself in the foot with this one...

It's not even a right vs. left issue, it's a fiscal sanity issue!

[goforit]

15. And making sure their fellow Skull n Bone guy KERRY keeps the lid

real tight when he becomes Prez, so that Bushco will never be prosecuted could be just what these putzes are after.

:tinfoilhat:

They have chosen the running mate they have always wanted.

[Solomon]

36. I don't want to be flamed, but your point has always

bothered me. It seems more than a coincidence to me. :tinfoilhat:

In fact, when you look at it, they also threw somebody else in there for a backstop too. I won't mention the name.

[9215]

38. Good point, but

I need to know more about Kerry's Skull and Bones days. How long was he in, what were his reasons for leaving etc. It could be that he was just a kid poking around finding things out. His life since those days has been on the other side of the fence.

This needs more study.

[spindoctor]

16. Certainly seems that way, doesn't it?

It's enough to make a man paranoid.

Do you hear me Mr. Ashcroft? Paranoid!

[dudeness]

17. that decision will be made by others..

and i do not mean the voting populace..for some time i have pondered that the cerebrally challenged bush would outlive his usefulness to his corporate masters and as such be jettisoned to the trash can of history..the problem will be for the next president (if the ruling powers decide that is to be a democrat) to re-assure the "markets" and ensure the profit flows remain steady.. bush made these "markets" nervous as he panders only the energy and arms manufacturing wings of capitalism..the challenge for the next president is too maintain the hegemonic and imperialist ambitions of the true rulers of the world without starting a peoples revolution that would disrupt profits..if he cannot do this ..he too will be cast aside ..

[RandomKoolzip]

18. So what do they do with the almost 200 mil they've raised for the campaign

Are they gonna keep this money? Supposedly they've raised more money than any other presidential candidate EVER. So....drop out? Lose?

Doesn't make sense.

UNLESS, unless, they spend a couple mil or so on the campaign, lose while pretending to care, and keep the rest for themselves and their families, and retire far away from the mess they've made of the earth.


However, believing in this would require such massive suspension of disbelief that it makes the "Hillary in 04" nonsense spewed by the right sound like James Randi.

[hexola]

25. Ahh The Money...Can they use it for Congressional races..?

Look at it this way...it's 200 mill the other guys won't get...they have taken alot of money out of the political system...

And was this 200 mil given specifically to BushCo. or to the GOP? Perhaps they can spread it around...

[DoYouEverWonder]

33. I believe in most states

a politician can do what ever he wants with his 'war chest' if he/she doesn't spend it all on their campaign.

Bu$hler is making sure he enriches himself and his friends as much as possible during his 4 year term and bankrupting the US Treasury in the process. Since Bu$hler can't sit on the boards of any of corporations while he's pres, he can only make some extra money by raising money for his campaign. Now it makes sense why him and Cheney are so concerned and dedicated to fund raising as much as possible, but could care less what anybody thinks about them.

The damage Bu$hler has done to this country and the world, will be extremely difficult to repair. They know this and don't care. Their mission is to destabilize the world and keep their 100's of 'regional' conflicts going for the rest of the century. This is how they enrich themselves, this is how they make their living.

If Bu$hler blows it and doesn't get reelected, he will be delighted to be out of the limelight. He can go sip martini's with Kenny Boy and Osama and gloat about how easy it was to destroy the world.

In the meantime the machines are fixed to make sure the repugs keep the House and Senate, so even if a dem wins the WH, they won't be able to get anything done anyway.

[Cat Atomic]

19. Why not? It worked last time.

Didn't keep him from taking the oath or anything.

[bobbyboucher]

20. Was Perot just a plant?

I have come to the point where I now believe that Perot, a Texan who came out publicly in support of Bush II in 2000, surprisingly, is just a peice in the puzzle. Ever notice the ridiculousness of his demise? That whole "they spied on my daughter's wedding" bullshit and the selection of his known to be brain damaged idiot running mate? Remember Perot singing "Crazy" by Patsy cline?

GWHB couldn't win because he wouldn't have been able to pardon the Iran-Contra crowd, and thus would have been impeached. Having his idiot son take his presidency where they believe it should have gone is just icing on the cake for those corrupt fucks.

Prove me wrong.

[sendero]

31. I don't know....

... about Perot, but you are not the only one who thinks Bush the First had to get out to escape Iran-Contra, which was closing in at the time.

[grasswire]

21. just one thing bothering me with this scenario

He hasn't appointed any Supreme Court justices and won't have time to do so, soon. That was a major goal for conservatives.

[hexola]

26. maybe...for conservatives...

but not for BushCo...they have really only given lip service to the conservatives...they took Iraq...we are at war...they won't lose many conservatives...no matter what...

The supreme court appointess have been a tool to keep the Dems distracted...

[The White Rose]

23. Hmm...Democrat wins..."Al Qaeda" assassinates POTUS and VP...

national emergency...COG steps into limelight...RIP...

[ClarkUeberAlles]

24. I've been think that myself

I don't think Bush wants to lose so much as he doesn't seem to care if he wins. It seems Bush is acting as if he did all the major things he wanted to do except for nominating someone to the supreme court.

He enriched all his corporate masters, reduced civil liberties for regular folk, and avenged his Daddy among other things. I think a reelection for him would just be icing on the cake.

[hexola]

27. the Freeper thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1067277/posts

They do seem astounded...I've rarely heard them make these kinds of noises...

Too bad they already gave all their money to BushCo.

[hexola]

30. BWTL !

I call this theory "BWTL" - Bush Wants To Lose.

[Skittles]

32. HA HA, HA HA HA HA

PLEASE

[MadHound]

34. Sorry but that is just wishful thinking

I'm still making book that not only will Bush run, but he will win too(or at least be reselected).

The deal is isn't that Bush is acting like he doesn't want to win, he is acting like he already has the election in his back pocket. This kind of arrogance stems from the fact that he has Diebold already in his pocket, and the fact that more and more states are adopting the Choice Point method of voter scrubbing, hence more and more Dems are going to be disenfranchised. On top of that, if it becomes painfully obvious that Bushco isn't going to win(obvious enough that the whore pollsters can cover for him anymore), I honestly think the administration will pull out their LIHOP/MIHOP trump card and BOOM! martial law and no elections for a long while.

Bushco has plenty of reasons to stay in office, what with more of our money to loot(along with our children's and grandchildren's money), following the PNAC warpath into Iran, Syria, or both, tax cuts to make permanent, making the PATRIOT Act permanent, a middle class to strangle into nonexistence, and on and on and ever on. He's already making plans for his second terms, what with the rumblings about Syria and Iran, the hints at a draft upcoming, the furor over gay marriage, etc.

Sorry to be such a bummer, but I think we're stuck with the chimp one way or another. The question now is how long?

[9215]

37. Yep. But the problem is all

of the shit coming down on them. How can they avoid all the scandals?

If the BFEE is allowed to continue and come back with a Kerry, or Dean dabbling with office interns scandal in a few years they can then begin the whole process of ripping off the public again.

I think they are going to do makeovers and dissappearing acts on a grand scale. Maybe stage a WTC attack on "themselves" or something.


The money pissed away in Iraq profiteering will be hard to trace if their money laundering apparatus is allowed to stay in place.


But a vital part of their international operations is Saudi Arabia, if we can bear down on them.......

[OneTwentyoNine]

39. He's never really "won",ever--he wants this one REAL bad

Even if it means rigged up voting machines and people they know that vote Democrat scrubbed from the lists.

David