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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:52 PM
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Coincidences. Confessions of a Tinfoil Hatter.
After wearing my tinfoil hat since the 2000 selection, it's finally all worn out, accidentally fell off, and finally, I have been able to see the light. I was wrong for wearing that hat so long. I've finally concluded that all the things I was afraid of are just mere coincidences.

It was just a coincidence that:

1. The justices on the Supreme Court who said don't count the votes
were appointed by the daddy of the guy who "won".

2. The province which determined the outcome of the selection was
controlled by the brother of the guy who "won".

3. The guy who got Faux News to change the story from Gore won
Florida to Bush won Florida, is the brother-in-law of the guy
who "won".

4. 9-11 occurred almost the very moment that several prominent
newspapers were set to report that Gore really won the election.

5. There was a mock drill of hijacked planes crashing into buildings
the moment of the 9-11 attack.

6. Prominent people in the administration were taking Ciprio before
the Anthrax attack.

7. The anthrax was only sent to a news reporter and the two top
democrats in charge of invoking investigations.

8. And just a coincidence that the anthrax arrived AFTER Bush and
Cheney "suggested" to Daschel that there be no investigation of
9-11.

9. Just a coincidence that there were plans ready for Bush's
signature to invade Afghanistan BEFORE 9-11 occurred.

10. A coincidence that a great number of top administration officials
are oil industry executives and Iraq is full of oil.

11. Just a coincidence that Norad didn't put up any air defense on
9-11. (They were asleep at the switch - wink wink)

12. That somehow yellow cake slipped into the resident's address
after people tried to take it out.

13. No weapons of mass destruction were found. (other than the gross
mass of weapons of mass destruction that we took in there to
kill the "infidels" with).

14. Somebody made a "skilling" on the stock market on 9-11.
(Stop being so skeptical - it was a coincidence)

15. Within 48 hrs. after 9-11, our brilliant investigators were able
to tell us details including pictures of each of the hijackers,
but they can't tell us who sent the anthrax, who made the
skilling on the stock market, or who outed the CIA agent.

16. It was mere coincidence that FBI officials ignored reports
about the hijackers, and these people got promoted.

17. Richard Meyers, chief of norad, who didn't do dick, was
promoted to chairman, jt. chiefs of staff.

18. Somehow the bombing of Iraq was extremely effective in
destroying infrastructure while no-bid contracts had already
been discussed and inked to re-build the infrastructure.

19. The poster girl for corporate corruption is Martha Stewart
a democratic contributer. She made off with a whopping
$38,000 while Ken Lay made a pitly billion or so.

20. Plans to take over the world were written and published by
administration officials before being selected to office.

21. The expert on Osama Bin Laden, John O'Neil was transfered to
head security at WTC right before the 9-11 attack. He survived
the attack, but then "died" tried to save others in the
building. Damn isn't life strange.

22. Terror alerts always coincide with bad news for the
maladministration.

23. That only democratic officials die in plane crashes, never
republicans.

24. That a little birdy told John Ashcroft not to fly in
in planes around 9-11.

25. Somehow, americans believe that Saddam was behind 9-11. (I'm
still trying to figure out how this happened, did somebody say
something?)

26. Every MLK day, Bush sticks it to blacks. Just a coincidence it
happens a lot on this date.

27. The big, bad Al Qaeda, world-wide organization of terror,
with tens of thousands, hasn't even done anything as simple
as blow-up a restaurant on american soil.

28. The news media is owned by war profiteers.

I'm getting too tired to list them all. Maybe some others who have awaken from our slumber can add more.

Take off those tinfoil hats. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I feel like a new man. I'm born again. Saved from the clutches of the evilduers who would brainwash me into thinking something conspiratorial is going on. Allah, er,.. I mean, God Bless America.



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Thoth Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:57 PM
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1. well done
Everything points to 9-11 LIHOP at the very least.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:59 PM
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2. excellent
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Indiana Democrat Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:00 PM
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3. Backing away slooooooooowly.......
Please put the tinfoil hat back on??
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:08 PM
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9. No. No. Indiana. I'm back on the blue pill.
Never again. I took off the hat for good. Let's take today for example. It's just another coincidence that on today where so much has coalesced about the Kay thing and wmd's, and lawsuits against Bush, and people bitching about him on C-Span, and Kerry surging, that, voila, big news again about Kobe AND Michael, on the SAME day. How's that for coincidence? This coincidence shit seems to really be how life works I think.
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Indiana Democrat Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:39 PM
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37. Yes, coincedences DO happen.
Or are you saying that Micahel Jackson and Kobe are in on it all? (PLEASE don't tel me that's what you think! PLEASE!!!!)



(By the way...What happened with them? I've not heard a thing).
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:58 PM
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39. Just try watching the news and you'll find out.
Apparently some woman in Oregon said she had a sexual encounter with Kobe at a hotel in Oregon, except that they didn't have sex because she began to feel guilty. Said he acted like a perfect gentleman about it.

As for Michael, some woman wrote a Vanity Fair article that says Michael is an alcoholic. He hid his wine drinking by concealing the wine in coke cans. He called it "Jesus juice."

And you are absolutely right. Coincidences DO happen. And a whole bunch of 'em too. :evilgrin:
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Lone_Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:00 PM
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4. I like to call what they do...
strategic planning instead of conspiracy...

Great post!
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:19 PM
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11. Or "Active Manipulation" of events
There are so many other words to use...we shouldn't buy into the propaganda machine by calling it what they do.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:03 PM
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5. Conspiracy... or COINCIDENCE?
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:36 PM
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17. Hot Damn! BigIdea. That was just what I needed. Some
visual reinforcement for my new outlook on life. Never know when you might fall off the wagon. Thanks for the stream. I'll save it for whenever I feel weak. :thumbsup:
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:03 PM
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6. I'm with you
Its obvious to anyone with a questioning, critically-thinking mind. I'm not sure what to do about it or anything...but it has been useful to view world events as they actually are.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:04 PM
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7. Forgot 1
Coincidence that the Brother of the guy who "won" , Marvin Bush, was in charge of security at WTC.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:24 PM
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12. Wow, if I ever knew that one
I'd forgotten it entirely.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:26 PM
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15. HCC Insurance/ Stratesec Links Marvin Bush & WTC
"A brother of George W. Bush was connected to at least three companies did business with the WTC, although the White House has not mentioned that fact."

more....

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=79&contentid=812


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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:56 PM
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21. more
Marvin P. Bush, the president’s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company, Burns noted, was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Burns also served.
According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center "up to the day the buildings fell down."
---
Stratesec (Securacom) differs from other security companies which separate the function of consultant from that of service provider. The company defines itself as a "single-source" provider of "end-to-end" security services, including everything from diagnosis of existing systems to hiring subcontractors to installing video and electronic equipment. It also provides armored vehicles and security guards.
--
As Black points out, "when you have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." And if another company is linked with the security company, then "What's on your computer is on their computer."
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:22 PM
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25. Damn Free. I thought I was up on stuff.
Never knew this information. Thanks.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:08 PM
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8. Anyone care to guess what the next planned "events" might be?
I'll take a stab...before the elections there are two possibilities:

- Another devastating "terrorist attack" by either foreign "terrorists" or Liberal Activists. Can you imagine what they could do to the Liberal cause by faking such a thing?

- They might decide to assasinate *. He's lost all credibility and so is all but useless to the powers-that-be. They might just put him out of his misery...and then the flags will start waving and there'll be talk of carying on his legacy...with Rudy Giullianin running as the Republican candidate.

Its so easy for them to manipulate events just like that...when you have control over the media and practically all legal and legislative bodies. Public opinion is the easy part.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:24 PM
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13. Oh, this one's easy. They WILL find the wmd's, and to top it off,
we're gonna finally smoke Bin Laden out of that cave he's a bin hiding in. But these things will only happen as coincidences, not specifically for election time.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:26 PM
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29. And if all that doesn't work...they'll just rig the election again...
unless of course they want Kerry to win...let's hope they choose a good leader for us this time.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:11 PM
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10. Bravo!
Let's also not forget that Flight 93 really was intentionally crashed by the passengers and that F-16 flying right behind it only watched. And Flight 587 crashed in Belle Harbor because Airbus tails are so flimsy that they have a habit of breaking cleanly off.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:25 PM
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14. I'm so glad for you
that the new meds are working.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:31 PM
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16. Actually it was that damn hat falling off that did it.
It was an accident, but now I'm glad it happened. It was hard to sleep comfortably with that damn thing on.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:11 PM
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23. Well, that's what you did wrong.
You're not supposed to sleep in the tinfoil hat. Do like I do. At night I stick my head in a large aluminum breadbox with a little pillow in it. Much more comfortable, and my tinfoil hats don't wear out anywhere near as quickly.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:24 PM
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26. Y'all!!!!
ROTFLOL!!! :toast:
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:25 PM
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28. LOL!! Howling with laughter.
Thanks for the tip. If I fall off the wagon, I'll try it. Come to think of it, since I've worn out my hat, if I fall off the wagon I may have to walk around wearing my toaster.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:41 PM
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18. I know what ya mean. It just HAS to be a coincidence that
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 01:51 PM by Minstrel Boy
Ten minutes into his first cabinet meeting, Bush declared his intention to go to war with Iraq, saying "I don't care how; find a way."

Indicators suggest global oil production peaked in 2000.

Cheney won't disclose his Energy Task Force papers.

As Cheney heads his energy task force, in May of 2000 he takes on a new position to coordinate the government's anti-terrorist response to an attack on American soil.

FBI head office stymied field agents investigations into flight schools.

Before 9/11, a CIA translator had her work intentionally and repeatedly deleted and was told to slow down.

Fifteen of the hijackers entered the US through Jeddah, which a 20-year veteran of the State Department says was a CIA-sanctioned safe entry point for al Qaeda members to receive training in the US.

At least five of the 9/11 hijackers received training at US military installations, such as Maxwell Air Force Base and the Defense Language Institute in Monterrey.

In the summer of 2001 Donald Rumsfeld commissioned a study of great empires, including the Roman, Macedonian and Mongol, to determine how they maintained their rule.

Plans for the invasion of Afghanistan were on Bush's desk before he left for his 2001 summer vacation.

French Intelligence reports that two CIA agents met with Osama bin Laden in the American hospital in Dubai in August 2001.

The head of Pakistani Intelligence authorized the wiring of $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, and is meeting top US officials in Washington the week of September 11.

On September 10, top Pentagon officials suddenly cancelled commercial flights for the next day for security reasons.

Flight 77 made a high-speed spiralling decent of 270 degrees to hit the one side of the Pentagon which had been strengthened to withstand attack, was undergoing reconstruction, and was virtually empty.

When the US apparently had bin Laden cornered, troops received a stop order and helicopters from Pakistan flew into Tora Bora and out again.

Bush refused for more than a year to authorize a 9/11 commission, and when he did, wanted Henry Kissinger to chair and gave it a budget of only $3 million. (The commission to investigate the Columbia disaster was ordered immediately, and had a budget of $50 million.)

The Chair of the 9/11 commission has business ties to the bin Ladens.

Bush finds more pressing business for Max Cleland, the only 9/11 commissioner to say the investigation is a sham.

The White House stonewalls the commission and refuses to extend its mandate.


I mean, the implications, if it's NOT a coincidence, are simply too terrible to contemplate....
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:24 PM
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27. "The individual is handicapped...
"The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
J. Edgar Hoover
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:32 PM
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33. As a professional translator
I would go into a murderous rage in this situation:

"Before 9/11, a CIA translator had her work intentionally and repeatedly deleted and was told to slow down."
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:50 PM
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19. Very Good Post
Solomon - thanks!
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:55 PM
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20. One wonders...
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 01:58 PM by boloboffin
...if there's anyone at DU that advocates all of these positions.

Edit to make clear: that all these occurances are coincidences. Shooting down idiotic theories about Flight 77 not crashing into the Pentagon or WTC controlled demolitions on 9/11 is not the same thing as calling all your statements coincidences.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 01:59 PM
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22. I don't know, but there's plenty of people who
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 01:59 PM by Solomon
will say that all of them are coincidences. And happily, I've joined the crowd. Doesn't make me a freeper though. That would take a straight jacket and intravenous drugs.
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:14 PM
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24. So you are a party of one here at DU?
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:28 PM
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31. LOL! Don't make me feel so good. I'm dealing witha serious
health issue here and I don't want to be corrupted again by the grassy knoll crowd. :evilgrin:

Remember, unlike most people who get insulted by the suggestion to wear a tinfoil hat, I took great pride in wearing mine.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:28 PM
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30. How 'bout the "coincidence
that the whole *fam damily been involved in slimy shenanigans, making mucho moolah gettin' other folks killed and robbed FOR FUCKING DECADES!
Can I hear an amen?
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:06 PM
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35. Amen. Hi Karenina!!
Most people don't know that the family itself is a crime cabal. Marvin, Neal, Jeb, George, they're all in charge of their own baliwicks. From banking fraud, to real estate fraud, insurance fraud, etc. It's deep.

No wait. What the fuck is wrong with me. Pay no attention to their last names. It's just a coincidence.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:44 PM
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41. BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
:bounce: :toast: :bounce:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:29 PM
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32. Good job, Solomon, you are now ready to be an upstanding Subject
of Imperial Amerika.

Yeah, just a coincdience.

Like Hitler and the Reichstag.

Like Watergate.

Like the October Surprise and Iran-Contra.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:04 PM
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34. Congradulations on your new found "sanity"
I wish I could just forget about this stuff. I know it is killing me, but I cannot help it.

It has affected my ability to even act like a 'normal' person, whatever normal means.

It would help if the truth came out, and I could believe it. It is like an obsession.

But I have to follow this thing through to the end
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:25 PM
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36. More
The anger is very intense, the sense of injustice. I am not violent.

What really chaps my hide is the idea that because these people are powerful and wealthy, they somehow can live by another set of rules. The idea that those responsible will get away with what they have done.

I probable am insane from the standpoint of the definition of sanity as seeing what everyone else sees. But what I see is real. The reality I see is that 3000 people were murdered to further an agenda by the powerful and wealthy.

And this makes me very angry.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 03:40 PM
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38. Take some solace in this JellyBean:
Even though they own everything, control everything, including the Supreme Court, the Legislature, the Presidency, the corporations who profit from the war, and everything else, have you noticed how unhappy they are? I've never seen republicans act so angry and mean as they are now, and they have everything. What do they have to complain about? But complain they do.

Seems the more they get, the more unhappy they are. Maybe it's because they know they don't own the souls if the people. Of course the corrollary to this point is that the people have now become the enemy. But at least we have a cause to live for, and when all is said and done, a worthy cause is what it's all about.
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kendric Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:15 PM
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40. O'neil wasn't transfered.
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 05:16 PM by kendric
21. The expert on Osama Bin Laden, John O'Neil was transfered to
head security at WTC right before the 9-11 attack. He survived
the attack, but then "died" tried to save others in the
building. Damn isn't life strange.


O'Neil wasn't transfered. He no longer worked for the government and was in the private sector as a security consultant. He was hired by the port authoriy for the WTC area. YOU CAN'T BE TRANSFERED IF YOU'RE ALREADY THERE. Your speculation does injustice to his death saving others.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 05:46 PM
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42. Technically you are right. But I DO know that he was frustrated and
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 05:56 PM by Solomon
not listened to by Bushco as to Bin Laden. Now, whether he was forced out, or left in disgust, who knows, but I certainly do him no injustice to his death saving others.

I merely point out the coincidence of having the world's foremost expert on Bin Laden, having perished in those towers. Perhaps a better word would be a "convenience", for the Bush administration, that is. I for one, as well as many others I suspect, would like to have heard his opinion on whether this was a Bin Laden operation, there being no other credible evidence given to us, fake tapes and all, notwithstanding.
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