"I will sacrifice a chicken for God instead of a sheep "

[DuctapeFatwa]

With the prices of sheep sky-rocketing in Iraq and economy in tatters, buying a sacrificial animal has become something of a rarity in the occupied country and many Iraqis will be forced to abandon the holy ritual this year.

Iraqis blamed the recent hike in prices on the U.S.-led occupation and the smuggling of Iraqi cattle to neighboring countries.

"The prices of sheep in Iraq have jumped after the occupation as one sheep is selling now at some 200,000 Iraqi dinars ($30) compared to 30,000 before the occupation," Ma'an Rashad Al-Badr, professor of economics in Baghdad University, told IslamOnline.net.

one kilo of meat is selling now at 7500 dinars against 2000 dinars before the occupation, asserting that only the rich can afford it...
"But I will sacrifice a chicken for God instead of a sheep and give some of it to a poor family…God damn Bush and poverty."

http://www.islamonline.net/English/News/2004-01/31/article02.shtml

[Tinoire]

1. No chickens in my back-yard. Can I replace it with

one of the more vile freepers? Or would the stench be too offensive to God?

[jmowreader]

9. The aroma of burning freeper is not pleasing to God

Sorry, dude. You're going to have to put them in a bag with a big rock in it and throw them in the river like the rest of us.

[Tinoire]

14. LMAO! Thank you! lol n/t

[UTUSN]

2. Whaw? n/t

[mike1963]

3. I'll gladly give them 30 for a sheep...considering the price of lamb chops

these days....
:eyes:

[Cleita]

4. Maybe I'm being insensitive to another culture,

but the thought of killing anything for sacrifice in this day and age really seems backwards to me. Why not offer flowers or fruit instead or light a candle? Please forgive me if I am being insensitive, but it's how I feel about it.

[Tinoire]

5. It's straight from the Old Testament & commanded by God

When the Temple gets rebuilt in Jerusalem you'll see the same thing there.

Not to defend- just to explain.

If you think about it logically though... the meat is eaten afterwards. Is that any more cruel than animals slaughtered under our barbaric system?

You're not being insensitive. The entire concept of slaughtering animals is sad.

[Cleita]

6. I know the animals are eaten afterwards and maybe

it's even more humane than our method. It's just the concept that disturbs me. I guess I am disturbed that anyone would believe that their Diety demands this as part of their worship.

[DuctapeFatwa]

7. It is from a story in the Koran, God asks Abraham to sacrifice his son

Isaac. Abraham is going to do it, but at the last minute, God moves Isaac out of the way and puts a sheep in his place. Abraham sacrfices the sheep to thank God for not making him kill his son after all.

The story is, as Tinoire points out, also in the Bible.

[Cleita]

11. The story is about the Canaanites who sacrificed

their first born to their god Mordoch(sp?. It's late.) The story found it's way into the Bible and the Koran as a story explaining that God didn't want this form of human sacrifice anymore. So I guess it was a step forward. I was hoping there would be other steps forward since then though.

[Cicero]

13. Even further back than that...

Remember the whole story with Cain and Abel. Cain offers up the fruit of the land as a sacrifice, but is rebuffed by God. Abel sacrifices animals, and wins God's favor. Cain eventually kills Abel in (as my father would put it) "a rit of fealous jage".

Then there's the whole mark of Cain, him heading off into the land of Nod and taking a wife. (Where'd the wife come from...?) :shrug:

Later,

[oceanpoetry]

10. it is much more humane

than factory slaughter ...the animals are killed with strict dietary laws and must die without suffering (as in kosher laws).

[Cleita]

12. If the animals must be killed, I am grateful that there are

rules insuring a minimum of suffering. I really do hate our factory system and for that reason won't eat or use animal products when I know they are present other than eggs.

[Beaker]

8. huh?...people still kill to eat, what does it hurt to kill to sacrifice..?

a little as well, seeing as their religion views it as a command from God and all...?

[varun]

15. that exactly what I was going to say...

...if you are a meat eater, you shouldnt complain about slaughtering.

All I would like to see is a "humane" method of slaughtering the animals, causing them the least amount of pain.

[Az]

17. This issue was the basis of one of my comments in religious debates

The bible is quite full of detailed instructions on how and what to sacrifice to god. He seems to be particularly fond of the smell of burning animal skins. Lev 1-9 seems to be entirely concerned about which parts of the animals to burn for god as they are a particular pleasant odor to god. Thus my conclusion that heaven must smell like burnt goat most of the time. Kinda makes brimstone seem like a viable option.

[PsychoDad]

20. In Islam, the animal isn't burned.

It is used in the eid feast, in theory, with the greater portion going to the poor.

[bleedingheart]

16. More importantly this leads me to believe that people are starving

in Iraq. If meat prices are so high and only the rich can afford it then how did Bush make things better?

[DuctapeFatwa]

18. Fewer people have jobs, but those few earn more than before

This is how some guest on CNN explained it, that Iraqis had everything handed to them by Saddam, and now they must get used to freedom, where fewer people have jobs, but the few who do earn more.

Kind of like the US.

[PsychoDad]

19. The same happened in Russa.....

After the fall of communism and the adoption of a "free" economy. Most people became poorer, even those who had jobs, but a few became very affluent... Mostly criminals.

As you said, kind of like the US :silly:

May Allah accept our prayers and deeds this eid.

[bleedingheart]

21. My cousin in Lithuania told us that their verson of the mob is

running the show there...

ah capitalism...

[Cleita]

24. Oh boy, Republican doublespeak.

Only a few deserve everything. Everyone else can go to hell.

[PsychoDad]

22. The bushco answer?

Part of the new Iraqi healthcare plan.

Less red meat is better for them :silly:

[redqueen]

23. How sad

We just need to get the hell out of their country. Just let a true multinational force take over and give them the money to rebuild and get out of their way.