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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:02 AM Original message |
What will happen if AIDS depopulates Black Africa? |
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Lone_Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. It is sad |
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jansu (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 02:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
111. Cry for all of us! |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. Pat Robertson will get to keep all the diamonds and gold |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
61. that's pretty much the plan... |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 09:05 AM Response to Reply #61 |
129. But the labor force will be gone! |
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jean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
3. Internation Aids Trust |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
63. I'd guess the 'failed states' will be overrun |
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jean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. they already have a strong foothold, I'm sure |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
4. How can we do it? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
115. Very true |
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Vogon_Glory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
5. There Will Be Some Survivors |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. There is a tiny percentage of population who's naturally immune, isn't it? |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
102. 25% of European descent are immune |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Africa has more genetic diversity than the entire rest of the world |
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NWHarkness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
39. The problem is bigger than that |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
87. of course. |
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virtualzero2 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
119. This is somewhat silly |
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Taeger (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 01:07 AM Response to Reply #119 |
125. Words mean nothing !!! |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #125 |
131. Not to mention the fact that every "pledge" he makes the money |
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libview (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. question...... |
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Maeve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:44 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. From the article, part of the problem and solution |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Months ago I posted on another thread... |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. AIDS is doing the job it was created to do, |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. "target populations"???? |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Actually, its not very charming |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I'm not dismissing it. |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. I am hardly supporting the targeting of AIDS |
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freestatevet (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. And I'm sure |
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hang a left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
84. There is plenty out there to research on this. Try google. |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. Oh no. |
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veganwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. actually i think thats quite true |
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TSElliott (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Have they found a cure for Cancer yet? |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Cancer? Parkinsons? MS? Diabetes? Hypertension? |
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TSElliott (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:38 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Don't forget the common cold and the flu. |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Try not eating meat, |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Riiiiiiiight |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Good start. |
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TSElliott (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. I know you do not believe |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. If you don't eat meat you won't get cancer except through |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Even if you don't eat meat, the chemtrails will get you. |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Oswald acted alone, |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. Bull. Shit. |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Carnivorism is not physiologically supportable. |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
83. omnivorism is. |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. When we are both 80 I'll match quality of life with you. |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 03:27 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. humans aren't "carnivores" we're omnivores |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #69 |
95. Could you please define what's in "toxic sludge"? |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. Fecal remnants |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. So vegetarians don't produce fecal remnants? |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:55 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. Vegetarians digest their food |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #99 |
121. How My Cancer Cells Developed |
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jeffrey_X (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 05:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
123. Humans are not designed to eat meat... |
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Kaysera (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #123 |
130. ... then why do we eat it ... and like it ? |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #123 |
136. yes, human beings ARE designed to eat meat. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Even dinosaurs had cancer. |
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libview (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #32 |
97. by that rational, try using protection or not f**king everyone in |
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Loonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:52 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Unmarked Helicopters |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #12 |
31. Magic bullet theory |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Thank you Denver. I didn't want to be the one to say it. |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. My problem with Denver's post is that ... |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. What he means is that aids was intentionally created in a laboratory |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Yes, it is clear NOW. |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
28. So, the theory that AIDS was first spread by eating monkeys |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Did I say that??? |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. The monkey origination |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. It may be the NIH explanation... |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Actually, the NIH explanation... |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. We are discussing the origin of AIDS and HIV not |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
80. Denver Dem's theory makes sense to me |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. The problem with this fruitcake conspricay theory is that |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 03:15 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. The problem with your personal attack is |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:26 PM Response to Reply #91 |
104. A few concerns. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #91 |
106. So how do you change a virus without changing the DNA? |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 05:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
128. Jeez. How hard is this? We have now crowded every ecosystem in the |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
21. I think Denver Dem was saying |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. "Tinfoil hat" |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. Unless you have some proof |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. The Pentagon is creating DNA specific bioweapons now, |
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DrWeird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. We're not going to solve any problems with psuedoscience. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Where did you hear THAT crock? |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Dartmouth Medical College |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Says nothing about targeted biowarfare. |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. How did we find out that there is "no race gene", hunh, unless we |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. There ARE doctors looking for it |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
103. Some genes are more prevelant in some populations than others |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. Horsecrap!!! The first human appearance of AIDS is KNOWN... |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. HIV is not resultant of recombinant dna manimpulation |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
77. To create a DNA bioweapon you have to alter the DNA. |
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Terran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
93. You asserted that the AIDS virus was manufactured |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 04:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
96. HIV is an RNA-based virus |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #66 |
98. Link this, then |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 08:49 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. So a few guys NOW can imagine it. You still have the problem... |
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veganwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
17. "we'll kill them off, take their land, and go there for vacation" |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
25. Africa will once again be "ripe" for the pickin's" |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. It's amazing that something that makes so much sense |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 02:23 AM Response to Reply #33 |
110. It's all about how far down the rabbit hole you've gone |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
70. "Known sexual practices of uneducated people?" |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Why else would the "do-gooders" be so adamant |
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beanball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
82. The return of the Europeans |
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snippy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
29. Got oil? |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 03:04 PM Response to Reply #29 |
89. Snippy You Break Me Up. LOL! |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
30. Isn't this why AIDS was invented? |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
36. Seriously I think both Africa and the Far East are having such severe |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
40. I doubt that Africa will ever |
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cryofan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:13 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. what on earth makes you think we CAN change it? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #42 |
114. Prevention and education is key |
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dumpster_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. hey, we need to take care of OURSELVES first |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
46. I just read that article last night. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. Islam will prevent that from happening |
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skypilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I'd never thought of it but... |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. I would have to see the data on that to believe it because |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Of course it happens. |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. It happens with much lower frequency. Very few things in life are |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. Any drop in the rate would be good but I don't know that |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Not everyone will. It is a percentage thing. n/t |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. Yes, the groups that are SERIOUS about their religion... |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
49. the rich white guys in suits are just waiting to take over |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
75. Judging from what happened after the bubonic plague |
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Astarho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
100. Interestingly enough... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
78. Sounds like Lebensraum for the Busheviks |
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LeahMira (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
81. Perhaps this is why... |
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Serenity-NOW (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
107. Just had a thought, kinda tin foil but makes sick sense |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-03-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Not implausible, however. |
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Cappadonna (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 06:05 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Ironic, since most of the elite claim to be pro-lifer................ |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #109 |
122. And they started propaganda in the 70's when the W.H.O. and other |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 06:15 AM Response to Reply #107 |
113. Problem with that is that AIDS is known to have been around... |
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DenverDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. And scientific research is incapable of being manipulated. |
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Beaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 03:22 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. earlier in the thread- |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Not at all. |
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virtualzero2 (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-04-04 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
118. The population will not become extinct |
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RUredE4me (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 04:34 AM Response to Original message |
126. It was planned... |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 11:57 AM Response to Reply #126 |
133. Horse crap!! How can it have been planned in the 60's... |
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Solomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 12:29 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Silverhair. What would you think if AIDS had not started with |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. OK, let's assume that disease "X" has just erupted in |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 05:18 AM Response to Original message |
127. The population doubling time throughout Africa is about 25 years! |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #127 |
132. Babies born with AIDS do not live very long |
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Jose Diablo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-05-04 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
135. Aids is not just a African problem |
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