OK....not AWOL. Why did he STOP flying?

[buycitgo]

when are they going to mention the flight physical, and the fact that he NEVER flew again after being so unlucky as to not having his own personal physician present when it was time to take said physical?

forget about the AWOL

THIS is black and white, and no matter HOW he tries to wiggle out of it, even if the ridiculous claim that he could have his own doctor administer an Air Force medical procedure, how's the FACT that he NEVER, EVER flew again, blowing off his VERY expensive training (for which the taxpayer paid) going to play in Peoria?

I'd consider dropping the AWOL bit as soon as the flight physical can be broached and repeated.

create an echo chamber for THAT.

it makes him look SO Marie Antoinette: "personal physician?"

what, was he going to hold his hand for him?\

BTW, was it 72 or 73 he skipped out on the physical?

[buycitgo]

1. from Chicago Tribune

http://www.independent-media.tv/item.cfm?fmedia_id=592&fcategory_desc=Corporate%20Corruption

a pretty good, concise rendering of things as they stand

Bush failed to take his annual flight physical in 1972 so Guard officials grounded him, the story went. He never flew againp and received an early discharge to go to graduate school. His final officer-efficiency report from May 1973 noted only that supervisors hadn't seen him or heard from him.

Bush's campaign biography obscured or misrepresented these details. In the summer and fall of 2000, his spokesmen offered various and evolving explanations for what Democrats said represented a far bigger "character issue" than any of the windy exaggerations of their candidate, Vice President Al Gore.

"If he is elected president, how will he be able to deal as commander in chief with someone who goes AWOL, when he did the same thing?" Nebraska Sen. Bob Kerrey said to the Boston Globe, where veteran investigative reporter Walter V. Robinson, a former Army intelligence officer, wrote several major stories on the subject. "This stinks."

Yes, but like Bush at the end of his hitch, it didn't fly. A search of all news publications and programs archived in the LexisNexis database for the last seven months of the 2000 campaign found 114 stories referencing Bush, the Texas Air National Guard and Alabama. Over that same span, nearly 10 times that many stories--1,076 to be exact--referenced Al Gore and the expression "invented the internet," an allusion to the bogus charge then haunting Gore that he had wildly inflated his role in the online revolution.

[grasswire]

2. he stopped flying...

....after the Pentagon implemented random drug testing for pilots. That's when he avoided the physical.

[buycitgo]

7. hey! hi!

I know, but it's not even necessary to mention that......it sounds like there's some sort of negative thrust in bringing it up.

the mere fact that he STOPPED flying for whatever reason, other than some physical malady, raises huge questions about the performance of his obligations as a soldier.

he's a WEASEL, and he can't explain THIS one!

he's got wiggle room on the AWOL, especially when the pugs will try to dial it up to deserter, then claim he didn't desert, conflate the two, then denigrate the very idea of bringing it up.

[cheapbeemr]

22. Taxpayers paid $1 mil to train him as a pilot

Despite this, despite being appointed to pilot training in the first place after his 25% 'official' score on the pilot aptitude test (lowest officially acceptable score), despite being jumped over thousands already on the Air Guard waiting list..

Despite all these gifts, he simply walked away when his commitments became inconvenient to him.

In the Air Force, nothing is lower than a pilot who walks away from his flying commitment. Loser is too mild a word.

[Bozita]

38. "Nothing is lower than a pilot who walks away from his flying commitment"

well stated!

[OneTwentyoNine]

14. Both Bush and James Bath refused to take a random drug test...

Now why would a couple of hotshot jet drivers refuse the test?? Alcohol in the bloodstream--LOL,not a chance...it was something else.

By refusing both were grounded and had their wings clipped. Explain that one Chimp!! Come on I dare ya....

David

[Fridays Child]

18. Maybe that's when Bath's future became inextricably entangled...

...with the Bush cabal. Did he and Junior get busted on coke charges together? Did the family offer Bath a deal he couldn't refuse?

In any case, we know that Junior was not seen at his post between May of '72 and October of '73 (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/afp/us_vote_bush_military). Perhaps it's no coincidence that Poppy sent Junior to do community service at Houston's Project PULL from shortly after Christmas of '72 until sometime during the summer of '73, if not longer.

Poppy claimed that the drunken "mano-a-mano" incident was the reason Junior needed to do community service (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/wh2000/stories/bush072899.htm). He even went further to say that Junior had nothing better to do until he went to Harvard, anyway. Huh? What about the other community service he was supposed to be doing, at the time? You know, that 6-year stint he signed up for in the Texas Air National Guard?

In my opinion, something far more drastic than Junior's drinking made Poppy decide to place him in an inner city community program for nearly a year during his Guard service.

[buycitgo]

29. evidence for drug test?

If there's evidence for him refusing a drug test, wouldn't that be MAJOR news?

are you deducing there was a drug test involved in the physical?

[gulfcoastliberal]

3. I hear that "personal physician"..

.. might've been a drug counselor up in NC at an exclusive rehab center for the wealthy. Check out Atrios today and see for yourself. Sounds like it might be credible. The question is, did anyone who actually worked on that Alabama senators campaign back in '72 ever see Bush* there? Inquiring minds want to know. Are there any photos of him with the campaign? Might be an interesting story behind all that.

Edited to post the letter from eschaton.com:

I met George W. Bush back in 1972. I was getting my Ph.D. in clinical psychology and interning at a private drug rehab clinic for the sons and daughters of the rich and powerful in North Carolina. It was tucked away in the hills, away from the lime light and promised the utmost discretion. I had to sign a half-dozen forms swearing me to secrecy to get my internship.

In the late summer, this kid shows up, looking like shit, wild-eyed, thin as a rail. It was Bush, strung out on coke. When he first came, he was trembling with the shakes and almost hallucinating. (He wasn?t my patient, so I am not violating any therapeutic relationship by revealing this.) Current news reports indicate that he was supposed to be in Alabama, working on some political campaign. He wasn?t in Alabama, he was in North Carolina going through rehab. I heard his father was some sort of political big wig, but that was no surprise; every kid in there had rich parents. It went with the territory. So Bush didn?t attract much attention.

His father never showed up, but his mother came twice. She just tore him to pieces. Even though she was in his room, with the heavy door closed, everyone could hear her perfectly well, just ripping him up one side and down the other, how he was a worthless piece of shit and if he didn?t shape up he would be cast out of the family, penniless. She would go on and on for hours. She made everyone there feel so sorry for George.

The thing is, he did shape up while he was in rehab.

Needless to say, don?t release my name.

[grasswire]

6. a reward was offered...

....for anyone who would attest that they served with George W. in Alabama. It is still unclaimed. More than $2000.

[trof]

4. here ya go

I send this out every time it comes up on the web. Maybe somewhere it will
get some traction. Feel free to use any or all of this, with or without
attribution.

At the time I joined the guard (1963), my unit was in dire need of pilots.
The 117th Tactical Recon Wing and the 106th Tac Recon Squadron were
recalled to active duty in October 1961 during the Berlin Crisis.
The units were relieved from active duty in August 1962.
Many of the pilots elected to remain on active duty and make a career
of the Air Force.

I heard about their pilot training program and just walked in off the
street. I took a 4 hour Air Force Officer Qualification Test (AFOQT,
basically the old Stanine general intelligence test) and another four hour
Flight Aptitude test. I passed both, although I don't remember what a
passing grade was. I do remember that 8 or 10 of us were taking the tests
and only 2 of us passed. I also took and passed a flight physical with the
base flight surgeon. You DO NOT take a flight physical with your
"personal" physician.

While my test papers and applications were
forwarded to National Guard Bureau in Washington for processing and
approval, the FBI ran a security check on me. A few weeks later I was
notified that all preparations were complete and that I could present myself
at the monthly drill week-end for swearing in with a temporary commission as
a 2nd Lt. No boot camp, no nuthin'. The temporary commission was to become
permanent upon my successful completion of pilot training.

A few months later, my unit secured a slot for me in a USAF pilot training
class. It was a 55 week program. When I was awarded my wings, I returned
to Birmingham, AL (106th Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron, 117th Wing,
Alabama Air National Guard) and 90 days of active-duty-for-training
to check out in our unit's aircraft, the RF-84/F. I then completed my 6
year obligation and was honorably discharged with the rank of Captain.
Massey Lambard
Foley, AL

AWOL? Deserter? Here are the FACTS.

Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#802.%20ART.%202.%20PERSONS%20SUBJECT%20TO%20THIS%20CHAPTER

802. ART. 2. PERSONS SUBJECT TO THIS CHAPTER
(3) Members of a reserve component while on inactive-duty training, but in
the case of members of the Army National Guard of the United States or the
Air National Guard of the United States only when in Federal Service.

Bush was not in Federal Service, thus not subject to UCMJ, and therefore not
AWOL or a deserter under UCMJ.

However, from the Texas Code of Military Justice, which Bush "may have
been" (see below) subject to says:
Acts 1987, 70th Leg., ch. 147, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1987. § 432.130. Desertion
(a) A member of the state military forces is guilty of desertion if the
member:
(1) without authority goes or remains absent from his unit, organization, or
place of duty with intent to remain away permanently;
(2) quits his unit, organization, or place of duty with intent to avoid
hazardous duty or to shirk important service; or
(3) without being regularly separated from one of the state military forces,
enlists or accepts an appointment in the same or another of the state
military forces, or in one of the armed forces of the United States, without
fully disclosing the fact that he has not been regularly separated.
(b) A commissioned officer of the state military forces who, after tender of
his resignation and before notice of its acceptance, quits his post or
proper duties without leave and with intent to remain away permanently is
guilty of desertion.
(c) A person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be
punished as a court-martial directs.

Bush was certainly in violation of one or more of these sections, but notice
the law was passed in 1987, well after he was out of the guard. So far, I
can find no information as to what the law was when Bush was in the TANG.


I was a pilot in the ALAANG 1963-1972. I can find no documentation of Alaba
ma military regulations on the web, but here's what I know to be true from
personal experience:

When I joined the guard to be trained as a pilot I signed an agreement, a
"contract" if you will. Upon successful completion of USAF pilot training,
I was committed for six years of service in the Alabama Air National Guard
(ALAANG). Pilot training lasted a little over a year, so my basic
obligation was for seven years.

If I had done exactly the same thing Bush did, skipped out and not shown up
for required drills and Flight Training Periods (FTPs)
1. I would have been located/contacted (if possible) by a superior officer
on an "unofficial" level and asked about my absence. In reality, it would
have been unthinkable for me or any of my squadron-mates to just drop out of
sight without any prior communication with my squadron or wing as to a
reason for this.
2. If I had no satisfactory "unofficial" explanation I would be required to
meet with an evaluation board of senior officers to explain my actions. If
necessary, I would have been taken into custody by military police.
3. Now it gets "official" If the board found I had no acceptable excuse,
they could offer three options.
a. I could make up the missed periods, possibly by extending my
obligation.
b. If I was unwilling to do this, I could have been assigned to
"involuntary active duty" (essentially "drafted"), probably into the Army,
as a private, for a period not to exceed the balance of my obligation. At
the time, that was a ticket straight to Viet Nam.
c. If I refused, I could be sent to jail for the balance of my obligation,
probably to Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary.

You can see why it was in my best interest to show up each and every time
with a shine on my shoes and a smile on my face. That Bush was able to
shirk his obligation with absolutely no penalty angers me. It was wrong,
and he should have paid. But he didn't. He had the right connections and
he got off scot free. Another reason this was "papered over" is that, had
it been publicized, his commanding officers would have been seen as guilty
of dereliction of duty in not dealing with the situation according to
established military regulations.

Two more points:
1. Bush was mustered out as a 1st Lt. As a normal matter of course, just
serving the necessary time-in-grade and having no major black marks in their
records, all National Guard pilots were awarded the rank of Captain a year
prior to completing their 6 year obligation. That Bush did not speaks
volumes and should have been a "red flag".
2. In spite of Bush's flagrant disregard/violation of military regulations,
he received an Honorable Discharge (which cheapens mine and the
accomplishments of all who have received one). This is one of the strongest
"talking points" used by his supporters.

We can bemoan the fact, and wail and gnash our teeth, but there's no way
(that I know of) that this wrong can be righted. I won't "get over it", but
I can move on. We can publicize this as much as possible, but he will never
be brought up on criminal charges over it. Periodically someone discovers
www.awolbush.com for the first time and thinks "Aha!". Well, I'm glad you
learned about it. Go tell others, for whatever that's worth. But don't
think you will ever see Bush in a court of law, military or civilian,
because of this. The only small, faint hope we have is the court of public
opinion.

[buycitgo]

11. thanks for that assessment!

as well as the legal stuff, as it relates to dimbulb

now, as a pilot, what about the skipping of the physical?

can you give some insight into that process, and what actually happens when someone is grounded after never bothering to make up his physical?

how does one evade (I LOVE that word) EVER taking his physical again?

he had over a year to do so.

shouldn't THAT be a major area of questioning for that oh-so-voracious press?

please, please answer about the skipping/failure to make up the physical!?!

[trof]

13. No show for physical = No show for duty.

Without the annual flight physical, you're GROUNDED.
If you're grounded you can't do the job you were trained for and are being paid to do.

You might not PASS the physical, but there is NO EXCUSE for not taking it.

It amounts to the same thing. Gross dereliction of duty and punishable.

[0007]

17. btt

[DemoTex]

20. There was NO excuse for an active duty pilot to miss a flight physical.

You were to be fit for duty and duty was 365/24/7. I realize the guard was a bit different due to outside jobs, etc., but the principle was the same. What happens if an airline pilot "misses" a flight physical? Like Owen, in Throw Momma from a Train, he/she is grounded! immediately and pay stops. If said pilot refuses a physical, the pilot's license becomes - essentially - useless. The pilot would be fired from the best job in the world. If an airline pilot fails a flight physical (like I did on 9/10/2001), he/she usually is protected by a compassionate disability policy. Likewise, an active duty or reserve/guard pilot who fails a flight physical is carried on the rolls, no stigma attached, until another job is found for the individual or routine out-processing occurs.

[librechik]

23. doesn't that document say he wasn't on EAD?

does that make a difference as to AWOL status?

[DemoTex]

25. EAD? Extended Active Duty? New one on me.

'Course I've been out for 32 years.

[trof]

40. Same for ANG.

Kinda related:
A couple of years into my guard service I broke my knee. Obviously, I was immediately grounded from flying. Remember DNIF? "Duties Not Including Flying"? Well, I was designated DNIF for about 3 months. As soon as I was able to return to flying duties I had to take a complete flight physical before they'd give me an airplane.

[grasswire]

5. more

In a confirmation memo to the Secretaries of the Army and Air Force dated September 29, 1972, Major General Francis Greenleaf, then Chief of the National Guard Bureau in Washington DC, confirmed the suspension of 1st Lt. George W. Bush from flying status. This written confirmation cites an earlier August 1, 1972 verbal order of the TX 147th Group's Commanding Officer that suspended and grounded Bush from flying duty for "his failure to accomplish annual medical examination."

There are two ways to interpret this crucial memo: either 1st Lt. Bush took his mandatory annual flight physical for pilots and failed it for some as-yet undisclosed reason, or he refused to present himself in the first place to an Air Force Flight Surgeon, who were readily available in almost every state.

....In April 1972 – the same month that Bush "gave up" flying – all the overseas and stateside military services began subjecting a small random sample in their ranks to substance abuse testing for alcohol and drugs. The Pentagon had announced its intention to do so initially back on December 31, 1969. If Bush reported for his scheduled physical in August 1972, he could have been subject to selection for a random substance abuse test.

[lastknowngood]

8. That was when they started the urinalysis test

n/t

[BarbaRosa]

9. right

Not so much the AWOL, but why did you stop flying?
Also, not so much LIHOP/MIHOP, but what are you hiding?

[45th Med]

10. A Document from Bush's Service Record

All this means is that either Bush failed his Flight Physical for one reason or another or he did not show up for his annually scheduled flight physical.

[buycitgo]

12. thanks!

"Reason for suspension: failure to ACCOMPLISH annual medical examination"

Accomplish? talk about tortured language.....how does one ACCOMPLISH a medical exam?

I see your point about one or the other.

Now....he had a whole year to take that other exam, as it says ANNUAL on there.

how does one "give up" flying, if one's a trained pilot?

how often did guardsmen "give up" flying, and to what duties were they reassigned?

I know he was refused assignment to a paperpusher detail at least once.

is this where the record gets murky?

[trof]

16. What this means:

Line 1: DAAF=Department of the Army and the Air Force
next unreadable but possibly National Guard Bureau. Read the seal at bottom of page. This order is dated 29 September, 1972.

6. Verbal orders. This seems a bit strange to me. "Verbal orders" means there is, at this point, nothing in writing from the "Comdr" (Commander...who dat?)
The blacked out part is his serial number.
ANGUS=Air national Guard US
(Not on EAD)=Not on Extended Active Duty (not subject to UCMJ)
"exigencies of the service having been such as to preclude competent written orders in advance."=(IMHO) "we just found out there's a fuck-up and we need to deal with it in advance of doing the paperwork."
"Off will comply with para 2-10, AFM 35-13"
Officer will comply with the provisions of paragraph 2-10, Air Force Manual 35-13.
Which says he has to take the physical.

[Cronus Protagonist]

15. Here's his promise to keep flying

"I, GEORGE WALKER BUSH, UPON SUCCESSFUL
COMPLETION OF PILOT TRAINING PLAN TO
RETURN TO MY UNIT AND FULFILL MY OBLIGATION
TO THE UTMOST OF MY ABILITY. I HAVE APPLIED
FOR PILOT TRAINING WITH THE GOAL OF
MAKING FLYING A LIFETIME PURSUIT..."

So obviously his word is not worth as much as a used square of toilet paper.

"FUCK Bush" Buttons, Stickers & Magnets

[buycitgo]

28. I don't see a date on this. When did he sign this? before or after

he "failed to accomplish" his physical?

[Taeger]

19. BECAUSE HE WAS DOING COCAINE!!!

He was doing Coke and was afraid to piss in a cup.

Remember by Bush's own testimony, he did Coke sometime before 1974. 1973 is good timing considering he refused to take his physical.

Your right, a "normal" American would not be allowed to waste the taxpayers money and skip out of flight duty.

[calimary]

24. I guess he DID intend to make "flying" a lifetime pursuit!

[Lisa]

21. all the pilots I know enjoyed flying so much ...

... whether they trained privately or in the military, the only ones who gave it up voluntarily did so because of economic reasons, medical ailments, or "one close shave too many". And they all tell stories about various incidents they remember from the cockpit.

okay, so here we have George W., who told the Air National Guard that he'd dreamed of becoming a fighter pilot just like dear old Dad. They spend 2 years and tens of thousands of dollars training him, and he doesn't even finish up his Guard commitment.

What's more, there are only sporadic reports of Bush flying a plane after he leaves the service. Plainly it's not due to economic constraints (the family owns at least one private jet).

There have been a few reports about Bush doing stupid things with aircraft. The best-documented one is when he nearly crashed a Cessna with Don Evans next to him.
http://www.seanet.com/~johnco/bush102.htm

Another story is that he "buzzed" a tower in East Texas shortly after getting his wings (I know of a guy who got kicked out of air traffic control school for doing this). And he took a bunch of inner-city Houston kids (plus his younger brother) for a plane ride, then turned off the engine in midair to discipline the kids for being too noisy.

Given how short his aviation career actually was, it's interesting that there are this many stories out there!

I ran this info past a couple of pilot friends, and we came up with these possibilities:
--Bush got himself into a major panic situation (the flight with Evans, say?) and is now scared to fly, because he knows what can go wrong
--Bush was caught doing something very dangerous, and was basically blackmailed into keeping his nose clean ("and if I hear you've been joyriding again, I'm making this report public")

Either of these things could explain why Bush hasn't been very forthcoming with "flying stories" even though the "fighter pilot" mystique is a major part of his image marketing -- worried about being caught out in a lie, or other people coming forward?

[DemoTex]

26. "Another story is that he "buzzed" a tower ..."

Young military pilots, especially fighter pilots, like to fly low and fast. Things are tighter now, but in the 60s and 70s nothing was sacred: girls' dorms, old swimming holes, home towns, lovers parked in cars, trains (poor engineers!), cars on the interstate, the beach, ex-girlfriends' houses on hills (in afterburner), and "old schools."

Auburn University, in the late 60s and early 70s was buzzed almost daily by T-38s from Craig AFB, UH-1 helicopters and OV-1 Mohawks from Ft. Rucker, T-28s from Pensacola, and RF-84s and RF-4s from Trof's guard unit (not to worry, Trof was busy buzzing Tuscaloosa, home of his revered 'Bama Red Tide Soap).

I'll spot Bu$h a buzz job or two. I'd have been suspect of a fighter pilot who didn't buzz once and a while. The engine "turn off" story, too, is specious. Don't cling to that. Focus on his guard record and drugs/alcohol. Slam! Bam! Then the WMD lies and the economy will seal his fate.

[Lisa]

32. I hear you, but ...

... I wonder if the folks who've been going on and on about what a responsible, grown-up guy George W. is would say if it'd been THEIR kids in that airplane?

Aside from the near-crash with Evans, these other (admittedly unverified) incidents are, as you say, specious -- but there's plenty of other stuff to show that Bush is every bit the careless, untrustworthy lightweight he's shown himself to be, in matters foreign and domestic.

I still find it interesting that he hasn't talked much about his flying career. I don't see him as the shy/self-effacing type .... maybe he only bragged once he'd had a few? On which point -- I wonder if he ever flew when drunk or high? He's certainly driven (and probably operated a boat) in that state, going by his Kennebunkport summers.

[DemoTex]

33. Lisa: "...he hasn't talked much about his flying career ..."

Nope. He never really had a flying career. He didn't love flying, like Trof and I do. He didn't excell in the military (I was #1 in my flight school class). His policies kick airline pilots in the face (and some of those airline pilots flew with Bu$h in the guard). Bu$h has not really had any career, as most of us define that term. He has been served many of his life's courses on silver platters, including his short stint as a "pilot." Like the other courses, he just nibbled a bit, then went back to the big attractions: wine, women (and maybe men), and song (AKA: drugs, sex, and rock-and-roll).

[Lisa]

36. think of his roaring success in other areas!

You know, DemoTex, I had meant "flying career" in an ironic sense ... but thinking about it, it may have been one of the LEAST disasterous things the Shrub has ever undertaken.

In business: those two failed oil companies
In volunteerism: one year helping an inner-city kids project, then bailed out on them and was never seen again
In politics: lost Midland Congressional bid; and only got into the White House because of the Supreme Court

And those are mild, compared to his "successes". He bilked taxpayers with that stadium deal, trashed the Texas educational system, squandered the federal surplus, left Afghanistan in a shambles, lied to the American people and gone to war on a pretext, lost more than 500 soldiers in Iraq (and thousands more injured).

I don't know if "taking people's money, disappointing them, and getting folks killed" counts as a career, because that seems to be his main gig these days.


Re: "he just nibbled a bit" -- it's almost as if he decided to try being a pilot because he thought it would make him look cool and help him get dates (remembering those stories about him cruising around in a sports car and silk scarf ...). And then he lost interest when he realized it could be dangerous, and actual work!

A "dress-up" pilot, basically. No comparison to you and Trof -- and other people I know, who fly water bombers for the Forest Service, or relief supplies into Central Africa.

[BiggJawn]

27. Afraid to tinkle in the cup.

A new thing they had instituted, from what I've read.

Guess the Dim Son was worried his piss would eat right through the bottom of the cup or crystalize from all the Coke in his system....

[DemoTex]

30. If it quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck ... BINGO!

That is the very issue that all of Christendom is tap-dancing around. Like I have said, if you hit the AWOL question, give DRUGS/ALCOHOL equal time. They are connected, inextricably. Believe me. The fucker was out because of drugs and alcohol. Now he is the Commander-in-Chief. The only thing between him and his old ways is a thin, noisy, afternoon 40-meter HF connection (thunderstorms near the antenna) with the ultra right-wings' Jesus.

[buycitgo]

31. Seriously....I dare you...... top this quote.....seriously

"George Walker Bush is one member of the younger generation who doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed.... As far as kicks are concerned, Lt. Bush gets his from the roaring afterburner of the F-102."
Texas Air National Guard press release, March 1970

[DemoTex]

35. Sychophantic press release in the first place!

What was the point? The TANG had a waiting list a mile long. Salt in the wounds? Well-connected, rich-boy, with history of alcoholism and human torture (in the name of DEKE hazing) has gone straight? He doesn't get his kicks from pot or hashish or speed anymore, just Johnny Walker Scotch and very pure cocaine? Fuck me. Afterburner orgasms huh? OK. The psychiatry texts are full of cases of guys who cream in their flight suits when the burner kicks in. Most of them get over it. A few go on to "dress up" as whore-house madams or fighter pilots in later years. The literature is missing any previous case of an annoited president stuffing a sock in the crotch of a Navy flight suit and strutting around the flight deck of a US aircraft carrier crowing that the mission has been accomplished while young boys and girls die at the rate of over one a day, to which he later says - big-balls-in-hand no doubt - 'BRING 'EM ON!

[Rebellious Republican]

34. Freepers are suiting up for battle........

I posted this in another thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=1082952&mesg_id=1083513

[DemoTex]

37. Good. They need to suit up.

They are in a distinct minority that will soon be more unpopular than it already is. While they work to cover all exposed tits, remember: Bigotry, hatred, and mindless jingoism are not American values. The majority agrees with us on that. We are way ahead. Keep the MOMENTUM going!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

39. because he would have tested POSITIVE to COCAINE use!