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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:15 PM
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About that Janet Jackson thing--
Does it have a deeper, symbolic meaning? The etemenanki people think so.

"Marianne/Lady Justice/Liberty is traditionally depicted with her right breast exposed. It was also her right breast that Jackson graciously put on display for us."
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"Certainly, this year's presidential election is a big - and perhaps the final - 'opportunity' for the common people to effectively push back the imperial regime and Corporate America behind it, the enemy within. This year's election may well be the most important one in American history - because it is likely to end up being a decision between life and death for the American spirit. Yes, this is it. This is the time to declare, perhaps for the first and last time, 'Give me liberty or give me death!'"

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/#development



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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:34 PM
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1. I hear you Jack!
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 01:49 PM by Hubert Flottz
The "Mother of All Elections"! I'm thinking if the people even suspect a hint of crookedness and manipulation of the vote counts this time, that it may not be as peaceful as the coup of 2000 was! People in America have bent over backward and forward to avoid being uncivil and intolerant as we have watched the sad things transpiring in America over the last three years!

How can America trust the elected leaders, if the voters can't trust the election process? We already see what a world wide disaster a SELECTED leader has turned out to be! Bush won by 1 vote and the people haven't forgotten who cast that vote that voided the true and honest outcome!
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:45 PM
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2. Sorry, the Symbolism Doesn't Work
Marianne and Lady Liberty didn't have their dresses ripped open by a white male . . .nor were the undertones of rape, as in Justin Timberlake's lines "I'll have you naked etc.," present in the metaphoric representations of Liberty.

The powerful, self-legitmizing Amazonian portrayals of Liberty contrast sharply to the victimized look of Janet Jackson on this page.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,8583578%5E28957,00.html
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:54 PM
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4. Finally! We talk about the rape symbolism!
Thanks, pippin! I was tired of seeing all the rationalizations and dismissals of the violent nature of this "entertainment".

We've come so far that violence against women seems to be no longer an issue.

Kanary
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:59 PM
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5. I certainly see your point
(I'd been far enough out of touch with things that at first I didn't recognize that photo as being of the incident in question). But did you check out the link? These people are coming from a very strange, meta-rational place, and might say that the juxtaposition of the rape imagery with the liberty imagery is a sort of compression of revolutionary sentiment into one composite image. They also talked about the linkage between Jackson and Beyonce as black females and Beyonce's singing of the National Anthem.
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:46 PM
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3. um...nope
Just 2 pop stars trying to boost their careers
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:38 PM
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6. Oh the Humanity of it!
I mean let's face it....the Super Bowl is the penultimate of Americas new favorite past time. Bone crushing, ligament tearing violence, interspersed with ads for stiffy pills! Woohoo!!! How dare Miss Jackson dilute the message with a display of a mammary gland! I mean there I was pumping my drug induced violence hardon to family values orgasm and she has to spoil everything by exposing her disgusting, baby feeder.

I'm mortified....just mortified.

RC
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:48 PM
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7. Career Boost and filthy lucre
I could be wrong...BUT isn't there a royality to the liscenceholder involved each and everytime a media outlet 'shows' that clip...

How do the mechanics work anyway?

If the NFL et. al. are so 'outraged', are they donating their 'take' to womens' shelters in protest?
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