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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:08 PM
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ABC News lies for Bush
Here is the direct quote from Sunday night’s broadcast, thanks to Todd Gitlin: “Reporters investigating Mr. Bush's military career found that, while he missed some weekends of training, he later made up for them and was eventually honorably discharged.” That sentence is a falsehood. In fact, as I explained in Newsday, only one reporter, the Boston Globe’s Walter V. Robinson, investigated the charge with any kind of probity and he found that Bush missed not “weekends of training” but approximately eighteen months. A May 2, 1973, Annual Performance Report noted that he has "not been observed at this unit" during the previous year and could not be evaluated.

His superiors apparently believed that he had been training in Alabama, but nobody can turn up any evidence of his having bothered to show up. And the general who commanded that unit, William Turnipseed, told Robinson he didn't remember even seeing the young man. Moreover, Bush did not submit to the required annual physical examination and lost his right to actually fly any planes. Bush was “honorably discharged” in pretty much the same fashion he was “cleared” for insider trading; in other words, regardless of whether he was guilty. Shame on ABC for its dishonest shilling for the White House, misinforming its viewers without doing any investigation of its own.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3449870/
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:12 PM
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1. hey, Terry McCauliffe was just on CNN -
refusing to back down, demanding that Jr. himself answer the charge that he was AWOL, saying he should "produce the records" that will prove where he was that year.

I watched ABC evening news last night, and there is simply no other way to spin what they said - they're LYING for Bush!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:17 PM
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2. Have they no decency: will they will shamelessly lie and shill for their
benefactor no matter what?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:19 PM
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3. And Judy Whoredruff tried to cut him off...
while he was trying to express the TRUTH. He persisted and got it in anyway.

Shame on you Judy!
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:27 PM
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5. MSNBC, Press & Buchannon with Lester HOLT!!!
Discussing this too! Pat says it'll backfire, Bill says "We're not backing down on this Lester. George Bush has serious problems with his service record, and our troops in Iraq deserve to know the truth!!..."
White house claims it was covered in 2000, Bill laughed! This story not only has legs - it's starting to WALK!! :bounce:
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:31 PM
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8. Pat says what will backfire? The dems pushing the story or the WH
trying to cover it up?
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:35 PM
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10. The dems pushing the story.
Then panicked laughter set in - just tried laughing it off. Didn't work.
Bill rebutted every argument. My favorite part is that the Democrats aren't backing down on this. Bill brought up Max Cleland, and how angry the Dems are over the way he was treated in '02. Said the Dems are not going to scede national security to the Repubs, either. WE'RE FIGHTING BACK - I LOVE IT!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:34 PM
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9. Bu$h hadn't sent troops to 2 wars in 2000
520+ Dead in Iraq, 100+ Dead in Afghanistan. It's time for Bu$h to make public his full military record.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:55 PM
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18. It was covered UP in 2000!
They dodged it then, but I certainly hope they don't get away with it again. :mad:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 06:26 PM
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22. Bush threatened Judy's husband ya know
http://www.blogd.com/archives/000164.html

July 25, 2003
Got Character?
You're in a Mexican diner in Dallas, Texas. You're sitting at a table, eating your dinner quietly. At the next table, there is a a couple eating with their four-year-old son at the table.

Suddenly, another man storms up to the small family. He is apparently drunk, and furious. "You fucking son of a bitch!" he shouts at the father. Everyone stops eating and stares at the man. You cringe when you see the young boy.

"I saw what you wrote," he rants on. "We're not going to forget this." You feel shock at this kind of drunken behavior in a public restaurant. You feel sympathetic fear for the man and his wife, being threatened in such an ominous way, as if the man were a member of organized crime and the family could expect thugs to visit them in the night with baseball bats or something.

You might fear the man who stormed in and raved, you might feel disgusted, angry, or perhaps, if you are more compassionate, you might feel pity.

But would you elect him president?

The above incident did in fact happen. It was early April, 1986. The drunk was George W. Bush, and the man and woman with the child were Wall Street Journal editor Al Hunt and his wife, Judy Woodruff. Hunt had written an editorial in which he predicted that Jack Kemp, not George Bush Sr., would win the GOP presidential nomination in 1988.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:27 PM
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4. Terry was great
:D I saw that
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:28 PM
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6. How in the hell do you confuse 18 months with a couple of weekends?
It is just so stupid! Oh well, this is the pResident who confused compassion with conservatism and tax breaks for the wealthy as an economic plan. Confusion should be his middle name.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:38 PM
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12. They use the same math when figuring the projected deficit I guess
:shrug:
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:29 PM
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7. I saw this also.
Terry did a great job pushing his point of view forward. Judy tried to shut him down before he challenged The Fraud publicly to produce proof.

I don't know if the situation or that fact that the GOP has been lying all this time will ever make a difference to moderates, but it is another nail in The Fraud's political coffin.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:38 PM
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11. Great find, Midori!
If y'all run into any freeps denying the Bush was AWOL, just throw this in their whiney pinched-up faces.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:38 PM
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13. interesting -- check this out
Bush refused to answer any questions concerning the charges. His official White House biography states, "He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard before beginning his career in the oil and gas business in Midland in 1975..." but gives no further details about his military service.

http://www.hereinreality.com/commander.html
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:40 PM
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14. Maybe that's why Terry is insisting that Bush himself answer
this question. Now, that would be must watch TV!!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:59 PM
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19. Clinton had to answer questions
about his private sex life, under oath no less. The COMMANDER IN CHIEF of the US should at least have to make his military record public?

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:40 PM
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:48 PM
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16. All we ask is "Show us his records"
Every other candidate has their records oput there for all to see and pick apart as they see fit all except Bush* that is. If he has nothing to hide why is he hiding it so much?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 04:50 PM
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17. you think he stashed them in Poppy's library
along with his other documents from when he was governor?
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 05:01 PM
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20. Could they not just forge the records?
I believe the AWOL charges, but I can see something like this happening and the Republicans then acting like victims.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 06:17 PM
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21. I suppose they could
but they would be viewed just as suspiciously as any WMD that would show up in Iraq.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 06:31 PM
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23. I suspect there is quite a bit of forging that would need doing
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 06:33 PM by Toots
Pay receipts for one thing (He must have paid taxes let's see them)and besides it is more than just missing time. It is stuff like how did he get his commission with no officer training? Why was he grounded? How did he get placed in front of four hundred other people who all had higher scores on their entrance exams? Stuff like that.
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