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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 01:44 PM
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..."Mr. Bush would be filling the air with the f-word ..."

http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/story/RTGAM.20040205.wmartin0205/BNStory/International/?query=bush

Lawrence Martin


By LAWRENCE MARTIN
From Thursday's Globe and Mail

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Though it wasn't publicized at the time, Prime Minister Paul Martin got a sense of that sanctimony when he met with Mr. Bush in early January in Mexico. Mr. Bush let the Prime Minister know that he believed himself to be on the side of God and tending to God's mission.

The Canadian side, while aware of the President's penchant for religiosity, had been expecting to talk more about softwood lumber than the Ten Commandments. The Canadians didn't expect the morality play. Nor did they expect that, almost in the same breath, Mr. Bush would be filling the air with the f-word and other saucy expletives of the type that would surely leave the Lord perturbed. Nor did they anticipate a pointed attack on French President "Jack Cheerack," as Mr. Bush called him, for his views on the Middle East.

Mr. Martin was somewhat taken aback by what he heard. After the meeting, he was barely out the door before he was asking someone in his entourage what was to be made of all the God stuff. In meetings of presidents and prime ministers, religion has rarely been at the forefront. Business is conducted on the basis of knowledge and logic. With the Bush White House, the visitors must bear in mind that there is a third force.
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aahh - smirk's "third force"
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 01:49 PM
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1. Martin must've been blown away by that Philistine
Imagine, the man admits to believing himself appointed divinely and on a mission to do God's work the first time they met. That's fucking scary, I don't care who you are.
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GCP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:04 PM
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2. Truly chilling
For the following reasons:

1. Bush has a huge following of fundamentalist Christians who believe the same thing, ie that he is divinely led.

2. The schism in his psyche being shown by the bible-thumping followed by the profanity.

He really sounds insane to me. Shades of Greg Stillson.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:01 PM
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4. Perhaps George believes in the divine right of kings.
A bit retro, to say the least.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:05 PM
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6. Greg Stillson is F*CKING EH RIGHT!
Bush is crazy as a shithouse rat. And a prescription pill-popper just like his ol' pal Pigboy, I have no doubt.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:17 PM
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13. Makes me wonder why his Dad would put him up for this kind of role
He must know he is mentally ill. Why would a father do that? I mean there's a good chance that his son may pay with his life for all this mess, either because the BFEE has to silence him, or he is found guilty of treason or war crimes, or someone finally decides that he needs to simply be stopped. Why would GH put him in this position?
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ithacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:35 PM
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15. GOP is controlled by Religious Right
this is not too surprising, though it is appalling.

For the facts on the GOP, see:

http://www.TheocracyWatch.org/
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 02:20 PM
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3. i'm beginning to believe bush is genuinely unbalanced. n/t
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 03:03 PM
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5. I might have to save this for the freetards.
They are always bashing DU'ers for using f-bombs in many of our threads.

Personally, I don't give a flying fuck if Bush swears or not. Kennedy did, Churchill taught his parrot to say "Fuck Nazis", LBJ swore like a sailor.

The only problem I have with Shrubby's swearing is the hypocricy involved. He hypes up being a good little Christian boy after all.

Actions speak louder than words. I've never heard Jimmy Carter swear.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:30 PM
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7. no kidding ...
The Shrub's "base" frequently looks down on other people (e.g. Democrats) for being inferior if they've had premarital sex, used any form of drug including alcohol or tobacco, cussed, skipped going to church, or avoided serving in combat.

Well gee, Bush has done ALL of those things. And yet he swaggers around looking down his nose at everybody else. What a double standard!

If they gave out "(de)merit badges" for that list, I -- and most of the people I know -- would not have as big a collection as the Shrub! But of course, the fact that many of us are poor, non-white, agnostic, and non-American would completely erase all of our virtues and good deeds in his eyes.

And yet there he is, sitting in Jimmy Carter's chair.
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:55 PM
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9. On swearing
Well, I don't much care what the Emperor Bush says or does in private, but it is quite inappropriate to swear like that in any sort of business meeting, let alone a meeting between two heads of state. It is an insult to assume the sort of familiarity implied by such coarse and informal language in such a setting. Further evidence he doesn't seem to know what he's doing or who he's talking to, or for that matter how to act like a grownup.

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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:14 PM
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10. maybe our Prime Minister was just relieved ...
... that something worse didn't happen.

Legend has it that in one meeting between LBJ and Pearson, the American yelled at our guy, picked him up by the lapels, and shook him.
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vanityfair Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:45 PM
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18. Yes, and if
anyone in his cabinet calls * a "moron," he'll probably give them a medal.


I'd love to see Shrub ousted in Novemeber. Then everyone who has been keeping quiet will be able to express their opinions of him more freely. And I'd love to know what they really think of this twit.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:19 PM
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14. Exactly right. Welcome.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:36 PM
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16. Bush's lack of understanding of social norms
The more I look at Bush's lack of understanding of social norms, the more I come to the conclusion that it is pathological.

Recall how when prepping to give his speech to the nation announcing that the Iraq war had begun, he pumped his fist and stated "Feels good" in front of a room full of reporters.

Given his history, I was not surprised by his sentiment, but instead by the fact that he did not see how expressing it in front of a room full of reporters would seem callous and arrogant.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:40 PM
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8. omg....it is as bad as I suspected....
he is an egomaniac lunatic!!!
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:41 PM
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11. Bu$sh IS A WHACK JOB
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 05:43 PM by Mari333

Abbas said that at Aqaba, Bush promised to speak with Sharon about the siege on Arafat. He said nobody can speak to or pressure Sharon except the Americans.

According to Abbas, immediately thereafter Bush said: "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."





http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=310788&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y
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colonel odis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:09 PM
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12. has a president ever been relieved of office
for mental illness?

isn't there someone we can petition to force bush to undergo a psychological evaluation?

i mean, this is a guy who claims god tells him to go invade countries.
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SalParadise Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:41 PM
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17. FREE VIAGRA IF YOUR NAME IS TIM RUSSERT - LOOK HERE!
Mr. Russert,


Now that I have your attention please ask President bush about this on your show Sunday.

If you do I'll send you that Viagra.

Your friend,

Sal.
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