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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:48 PM
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Don't look now but GOP worried about losing Ohio
This from the AP

While Bush's campaign conducts statewide polls rather than regional surveys, several Republicans familiar with the findings said the president faces difficulties in states such as Michigan and Ohio.


If Bush loses Ohio he is finished. Is there any good possibilities of anyone from Ohio to be on the ticket?

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SaddenedDem Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:54 PM
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1. Diebold didn't get the install
That's why they are worried about Ohio. The CEO of Diebold failed to "deliver the votes of Ohio to the president."
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:59 PM
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2. Yay
I sure hope so. It is unfortunately still possible (but difficult) for Bush to win without OH if he can take some other states.

They talked about BBV on talk of the nation today, so it may be getting some more media attention.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:59 PM
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3. We voted for President Gore
in Michigan...and hes still MY President.
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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:01 PM
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4. The Democratic Nominee MUST OPPOSE NAFTA/WTO

The Democratic Nominee MUST espouse withdrawal from NAFTA and WTO in order to tap into these disaffected voters. It is the CLEAREST way to differentiate yourself from Bush. Bush cannot POSSIBLY respond.

Bush is FORCED to support Free Trade due to his TRUE support base, Corporate Globalists.

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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:06 PM
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5. Gephardt?
nt
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:06 PM
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6. No
Fair trade is essential, not dumping what we have entirely.

"Bush cannot POSSIBLY respond."

Sure he can, all he has to do is point out all the problems with protectionism. If dumping NAFTA/WTO is not equated with protectionism in fact, it will certainly be in perception. It is a terrible idea, both politically and for policy (more so for policy)...
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King of New Orleans Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:11 PM
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7. AS far as VP choices from Ohio go
Both Senators and Gov are Repub. Ohio tends to move in cycles, all Dems for a decade, all Repubs for a decade. Marcy Kaptur is a fine Congresswoman, the former Congressman from Dayton, Tony Hall (?), is one of the finest people to have served in the House. The retired Dem Senators, John Glenn and Metzenbaum are too old for consideration.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:40 PM
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11. What's Traficant up to?
Sarcasm
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CANDO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:35 PM
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14. Traficant is enjoying his stay in Allenwood, PA
He's in the "country club" minimum security facility there. They use it for white collar criminals, you know, the ones who can afford good lawyers.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:53 PM
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15. Political cycles in Ohio
In Ohio we get a Republican administration in office and they cut taxes and practically bankrupt the state. Next you get a Democrat administration, they raise taxes and get finances in order then they get voted out for raising taxes. The last election Taft claimed everything was great until right after the election. The Republicans got caught in their own trap this time and had to raise taxes (big time), we should be ripe for a Democrat now.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:15 PM
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8. Ohio's manufacturing job losses are second only to (I believe) Missouri
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 06:16 PM by hatrack
When Chimpy went and gave his patented job/economy speech in Ohio last fall, it was designed to highlight the "rebounding" economy. Unfortunately for Bush, the factory where he gave his carefully staged photo-op has since gone out of business (the reverse Midas touch in action).

Then, after this year's spavined SOTU, he went to a job training center. This of course, was before we found out that the job training programs he's promoting this year will be cut by $36 million next year. I'm waiting eagerly to see how long the job training center will remain open.

Take Gore's states in 2000, add Ohio, and it's over for ChimpCo.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:21 PM
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9. "reverse Midas touch." I call that Bush's Fecal Midas Touch.
Everything he touches turns to shit.
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BigDaddyLove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:24 PM
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10. Michigan ain't doing too well in that regard either.
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 06:48 PM
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12. Shrub will lose Missouri this year, I predict
The crappy economy will rule the Rustbelt in 2004
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:11 PM
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13. I don't think there are any Dems
who hold a statewide office in Ohio. I found the Ohio repub website and it looks like every statewide office is held by them. On the Dem site, I couldn't find any. So, no, there won't be a VP from Ohio.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:23 PM
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16. Dennis Kucinich is from Cleveland
Is there any good possibilities of anyone from Ohio to be on the ticket?

Remember, it's not about electability, it's about who has the best press secretary! :-) Seriously, if said press sec'y should happen to see this, perhaps he can use the info to position DK for the VP slot.
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