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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:26 PM
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Consummate Arrogance: "The Fix is In"
From Josh Marshall's TALKING POINTS MEMO Blog :

First, the Head of the Iraq Commission is one of the jokers in the deck:

"Okay, some mixed thoughts on the Iraq Commission roster.

On the one hand, the president has some reputable Dems down on the list. But Democrats who had much of any experience of Washington in the 1990s aren't going to be overly impressed with its being headed up by Judge Laurence H. Silberman, who was one of the key operators in the right-wing onslaught against Bill Clinton.

Start with this article by Jonathan Broder in Salon in 1998, from which we excerpt the two lead grafs ...

The roster of combatants in the brawl between Kenneth Starr and President Clinton has now expanded to include a conservative federal judge and friend of Starr who has stunned even battle-weary Washington insiders with his intemperate attack on Clinton and Attorney General Janet Reno.

As part of the federal appellate panel that refused to hear the administration's arguments to prevent Secret Service agents from testifying last week, U.S. Judge Laurence H. Silberman wrote a scathing opinion that accused Reno of acting not on behalf of the U.S. government, but in the personal interests of President Clinton. Then, using language seldom seen in the federal judiciary, Silberman questioned whether Clinton himself, by allowing his aides to attack Starr, was "declaring war on the United States."

And then proceed from there to this interview with David Brock, who discusses Silberman's involvement -- while a sitting federal judge -- in much of Brock's anti-Clinton shenanigans from the early and mid-1990s."

- SNIP -

-- Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_02_01.html#002534


And now, the mission as proscribed by the "Executive" Order:

"Well, the fix, as they say, is in.

Here's the executive order the president just signed authorizing his commission which he "established for the purpose of advising the President in the discharge of his constitutional authority under Article II of the Constitution to conduct foreign relations, protect national security, and command the Armed Forces of the United States, in order to ensure the most effective counter-proliferation capabilities of the United States and response to the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and the ongoing threat of terrorist activity."

The commission doesn't appear to have any subpoena power, only the right to "full and complete access to information relevant to its mission as described in section 2 of this order."

If I read this right -- and needless to say I'm no lawyer, notwithstanding that summer in grad school I wasted prepping for the LSAT -- what's 'relevant' is at the discretion of the department heads of the various executive branch agencies.

And if you read the "mission" as defined in the order it seems narrowly framed as looking at pre-war CIA analyses (actually the whole Intelligence Community) and how they stack up against what Kay's guys found on the ground after the war.

Anything the White House did with those CIA analyses, any fisticuffs between the Veep's office and the CIA, anything stovepiped through Doug Feith's operation at the Pentagon, anything that made its way from Chalabi's mumbo-jumbocrats to the the president's speechwriters -- that's all beyond their brief.

-- Josh Marshall

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2004_02_01.html#002536

Will we hear of any of this in the "popular" media? Will we hear of any of this from the aspirants to the Democratic candidacy for the Presidency? Will we hear of any of this from the "punditocracy"?

The evil and the arrogance of this Cabal just never ceases to amaze.
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LittleApple81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:28 PM
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1. In Tweety's program today, the reporter from the Washington Post
essentially said that the commission is so far removed from the real information that they will "basically kick the can" and nothing significant will come out as a result.
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:33 PM
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2. And, Just Like Tweety...
... will we hear any of this posed as a challenge to Resident McHappyCrackWarHardOn during that turd with GOP kneepads, Russert's, program on Sunday ?

Unless you look good in the color blue, don't hold your breath.

Damn am I angry.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:34 PM
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3. The whole purpose is to divide and conquer....
They know with this assorted bunch of partisans, they will not be able to come to any consensus on anything....and that is exactly what Bush wants. Nothin will be accomplished.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:39 PM
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:45 PM
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5. I am old enough to know...
... that I treat other members of our colloquy here with, at least, a modicum of courtesy and respect and try not to insult them, their chronological age, or their wisdom by making such a coarse challenge.

Part and parcel of the act of hammering is to use that hammer in exposing and publicizing - even if it is only in the small part of the world here which we call DU - such frauds.

Which is what I did.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:51 PM
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6. Keep Hammering Away
the people will eventually hear the row.

Don't expect the Shrub Junta (SJ) to sit back and wait. They are acting and the people are forced to react. The SJ know how a moving target is hard to hit.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:59 PM
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7. The New Yorker's Jon Anderson had a great article on the Iraq situation
Enough to make the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end. Anderson went deep into the insurgency, at least deep enough to meet some of the men behind it. These guys are playing for keeps, and bush is playing politics. They won't stand for it.

Check it out if you can, I think it's in the most recent issue or the one before that.

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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:38 AM
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8. Thanks...
... for the head's up. A truly great piece.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 12:02 PM
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9. Please read David Brock's book and see what he says about
Lawrence Silberman. It's disgusting, absolutely disgusting. Why are these guys allowed to continue to fling their shit? I can't believe it. The arrogance of it. These guys are outted and they still continue to be placed on things they have no business on.
They really do rely on the fact that americans DON'T READ. We just listen and watch the symbols given to us by the media.
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