Did you just see Bush with Russert ( a snippet from tomorrow's MTP)

[glarius]

He was almost incoherent in his answer to Tim about whether he thought it was worth the lives lost and injured to take out Saddam....I can hardly wait to see the whole show tomorrow

[pinkpops]

1. me too

but let's don't get our hopes up. Is MTP aleays taped in advance?

[glarius]

5. This show was taped and that's my point....even on tape he comes

across as an imbecile....There must have been too much too take out if they wanted to have a full hour show! LOL

[spanone]

15. It is normally live but (aha!) not this week. Taped today.

so they can edit his replies any way they wish.

[Lindacooks]

20. Yeah, that's my thought

What good is it if it's taped? All the Democratic candidates have to appear live.

On the other hand, if he looks as stupid as usual, maybe people will realize that's he a total imbecile even after 20 takes.

[pinkpops]

26. he's probably pretty busy

being the president and all.

[imax2268]

52. I'm just waiting...

for him to start with "terror" "terrorists" "Saddam" "mass graves" "torture chambers" etc etc in every sentence...

[lancdem]

2. It must be bad

because that clip was probably the high point of the interview for Bush.

[glarius]

7. Exactly

:)

[shooga]

11. like a movie trailer...

... that's probably the best piece of the show ...

[NewJeffCT]

48. My thought was the opposite

I thought it was a lowlight - people will now go in expecting a Bush disaster, and when the rest of the hour is fairly lightweight banter between the two, it will be seen as a huge plus for Shrub.

[Robb]

3. Y'know what's weirder...

I was watching TV last night and saw background footage of Timmy and the Chimp sitting across the table from one another. Chimp on the right, Timmy on the left. No sound, it was a teaser and there were flying graphics and whooshing sounds all around it. :shrug:

Has he interviewed him before?

[JohnyCanuck]

17. Ever thought maybe you had crossed into the TWILIGHT ZONE

Like, you know, gone through a warp in the space time continuum while you were on a trip to the bathroom or while going to the fridge for a beer and skipped ahead 24hrs? Dooo Dooo Doooo Doooo Dooo Dooo Dooo Dooo.

If it turns out that Shrub screws up the interview and looks like a looser when the interview is aired on NBC tomorrow, we'll know we've all entered the Twilight Zone for sure. Verrryyyy Scaaaary stuff.

[laruemtt]

4. and timmy looked

almost incredulous like he was watching a madman - well, of course, he was, but right - let's not get our hopes up too much

[rocktivity]

6. Nice question, Tim--I must admit I'm impressed

But I would be a lot more impressed if you'd insisted on doing the interiview live.


rocknation

[arcane1]

8. no kidding, I thought "Timmy asked that???"

I may have to tune into this after all!

[alcuno]

9. His answer to the families of the dead was "David Kay said.....

that Saddam was even more dangerous than we had thought." I could NOT believe that that was the message he wanted to send to these families. "David Kay said.....?" Are you kidding me?

[glarius]

10. CNN said the interview was Bush's idea....I'll bet Karl and the boys tried

to talk him out of it....Bush is so egotistical, he thinks he's invincible and can win the public to him no matter what....

[snippy]

16. I do not believe the interview was Bush's idea.

CNN got that from someone in the White House. Therefore, it is almost certainly a lie. I don't know whether it was Turd Blossom Rove's, or Karen Hughes' or someone else's idea, but I do not believe that it was Bush's idea. He is too arrogant and ignorant to want to give the press the time of day, let alone a lengthy interview.

[JohnyCanuck]

22. This is my take on it.

Personally I think Rove, seeing the situation for Shrub deteriorating and the dropping poll numbers, organized the interview hoping that with the right questions provided to Russert beforehand and/or a chance to review the questions and prepare the Chimp along with some smart editing Shrub could make a passable attempt at once again fooling the masses (or at least the wavering independents and republicans) that he really did know what he was doing. The story about Chimp requesting to go in front of the cameras sounds like more of their propaganda to make the Chimp look like he's a "take charge," "brook no nonsense" type of guy if you ask me.

[snippy]

24. I think your take is almost certainly correct in every detail.

[LiberalFighter]

30. Arrogant and ignorant??? or..

Incomptent and ill at ease responding to press questions?

[snippy]

46. That too.

[nostamj]

12. that lying POS also did the..........

'fighting terrorists/Iraq War loop-di-loo'

it was a clip but somehow I can't imagine tweety stopping him with:

wait a minute mr. president. even you have stated that there is no linkage between terrorists and Hussein. are you referring to terrorists who came into the country AFTER you displaced Hussein? Why weren't you ready for that?

[TacticalPeek]

13. Shrub must lack his mother's beautiful mind.

"But why should we hear about body bags and deaths and how many, what day it's going to happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Oh, I mean, it's, not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" ~ Barbara Bush

[rumguy]

14. Oh my god! He sounds like a total idiot....

Just heard a clip on Hardball....

[onecitizen]

18. He looked AWFUL!!!!

Really, I thought he looked really, really bad. Alot of blinking! Hem-Hawing too.

[onecitizen]

19. incoherent yes!!

Great description glarius.

[bloom]

21. The scary thing is how

he can blather on without saying anything - and yet his supporters will no doubt feel vindicated and justified. :puke:

[Eurobabe]

23. anyone notice the line across his forehead?

it looked like a surgical scar, from whence his brain was extracted!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

25. If you look close at the pic

You can see W's power cord.

[Malva Zebrina]

27. Interesting--Bush looks like a little midget man in this photo

compared to Russert

[lolly]

28. That is weird

Like a little mannequin

And his pants are too short--but it seems as if he always has ill-fitting suits. How can someone w/as much money who has so many people fussing over his image always look as if he's wearing a suit fitted to someone else?

[DebJ]

41. the job doesn't fit why should the suit?

:)

[JohnyCanuck]

39. It's a "Subliminable" message for the masses

The great and powerful war-time leader Dubya is really not as important as you thought. He's really just a slightly overgrown midget. Where'd you get off imagining he was all that great anyway?

Now if Bush flubs the interview tomorrow and we see more pictures and propaganda/brainwashing techniques which could be understood as means of subliminally diminishing the importance of the Shrub, it could be more evidence that Mike Ruppert was right in his predictions last year that the Shrub had served his purpose in getting the US military into Iraq and would be removed either in the upcoming 2004 elections or by impeachment shortly afterwards. According to Ruppert, once bases are established in Iraq (as has long been planned) the US could exert the control it sorely wants over the world's most important oil fields, and, what's more, under Dubya's "presidency" the corporate crooks and war profiteers are more deeply entrenched in the system than ever. Now that the original goals have been accomplished or are substantially on the way to being accomplished, Shrub is damaged goods and will be replaced with a new leader who can take advantage of the geo-political/strategic gains under Shrub (control of oil) without outwardly appearing to be a war mongering, sock puppet of rich corporations and the oil and defense industries (like the Shrub is now widely perceived to be).

Beyond Bush Part 1

Beyond Bush Part 2


Excerpt from Beyond Bush Part 1.

July 1, 2003 1600 PDT (FTW) -- Let's just suppose for a moment that George W. Bush was removed from the White House. Cheney, Powell, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Wolfowitz and Rove too. What would that leave us with? It would leave us stuck in hugely expensive, Vietnam-like guerrilla wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. It would leave us with the Patriot Act, Homeland Security and Total Information Awareness snooping into every detail of our lives. It would leave us with a government in violation of the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th and 8th Amendments to the Constitution. It would leave us with a massive cover-up of US complicity in the attacks of 9/11 that, if fully admitted, would show not intelligence "failures" but intelligence crimes, approved and ordered by the most powerful people in the country. It would leave us with a government that now has the power to compel mass vaccinations on pain of imprisonment or fine, and with no legal ability to sue the vaccine makers who killed our friends or our children. It would leave us with two and half million unemployed; the largest budget deficits in history; more than $3.3 trillion missing from the Department of Defense; and state and local governments broke to the point of having to cut back essential services like sewers, police, and fire. It would leave us with a federal government that had hit the debt ceiling and was unable to borrow any more money. And we would still be facing a looming natural gas crisis of unimagined proportions, and living on a planet that is slowly realizing that it is running out of oil with no "Plan B". Our airports however, would be very safe, and shares of Halliburton, Lockheed and DynCorp would be paying excellent dividends.

This is not good management.

Leaving all of these issues unaddressed is not good management either.

And this is why, as I will demonstrate in this article, the decision has already been made by corporate and financial powers to remove George W. Bush, whether he wants to leave or not, and whether he steals the next election or not. Before you start cheering, ask yourself three questions: "If there is someone or something that can decide that Bush will not return, nor remain for long, what is it? And if that thing is powerful enough to remove Bush, was it not also powerful enough to have put him there in the first place? And if that is the case, then isn't that what's really responsible for the state of things? George W. Bush is just a hired CEO who is about to be removed by the "Board of Directors". Who are they? Are they going to choose his replacement? Are you going to help them?

Many, if not most of you are thinking this is way too :tinfoilhat: for me, especially when you're talking about subliminal messages in photographs. However, the more I see the things going around us today (weird diseases breaking out, mysterious deaths of numerous prominent microbiologists, a suspicious "suicide" of a prominent WMD expert, interest in Peak Oil mounting, the crackdown on civil liberties along with the militarization of police forces under the guise of fighting the war on terror etc.), the more I am coming to believe that Ruppert and others like him are more correct than incorrect in their assesment of the situation.

[DebJ]

42. amen. Explains the media's last 6 weeks of sliding the other way

[Skittles]

40. YES

the movie ELF comes to mind

[gristy]

29. That is completely surprising!

I thought he was battery-powered. And wireless too. :D

[LiberalFighter]

31. If you mean between his legs... Russert has it too so it is probably..

the mike??

[Poiuyt]

45. Those are audio cables

They are wearing lavalier microphones.

[theoceansnerves]

32. whoa!

he looks tiny! is that some kind of optical illusion? yikes!

[gristy]

33. Russert is closer to the camera.

But not very much closer. Bush actually is quite small. What do you think he weighs? One seventy?

[stevedeshazer]

34. Hold on a minute

You can see Russert's power cord, too.

I have never seen Meet The Press staged in the Oval Office. Has this ever happened before? Why isn't Bush in the studio set, just like everyone else?

Look at the picture carefully, for you can learn a great deal from the body language.

Bush has a defensive posture, stiff and with a hand on his knee. He is clearly smaller than Russert, although the camera angle emphasizes Russert's size. Russert is leaning forward slightly to take advantage, so points for him .

Bush's pants are too short! Unless he's wearing knee socks.

This is a very revealing picture on many levels.

[carols]

36. He looks like Edith Ann in the Big Chair

And the short pants don't help. Dear God he looks ike he is about 12.
Carol

[DebJ]

43. poor little guy...the child left behind

[VOX]

44. Good analysis, SD -- * does indeed look very uncomfortable...

and even infantile.

Not that those are new characteristics for him.

[T Bone]

38. Well he certainly has his 'high-water pants' on for the interview

man those are high-water pants. Is the white house basement flooded and he has been down there helping bail it out?

His posture looks 'up-tight' in that pic rather than relaxed. But then I am not a network whore propagandist.

Also one poster mentioned blinking throughout the interview. Remember excessive blinking is a body language LIE. Watch and see if he shakes his head 'no' at times too. That is a body language LIE.

Not sure I will get up in time to watch it.

[Enraged_Ape]

47. "Ok, Tim, if you just hold your head right about here..."

"and promise not to bite--"

"Don't worry, Mr. President. You know I'm very good at this."

"But you can do that swirly thing with your tongue, though. I like that."

"It would be my pleasure."

[Trajan]

50. ACK to that visual ...

You are TOO good at this Ape ...

*runs away SCREAMIN .... *

[Mari333]

35. How odd

I left a particularly strong message on Russerts phone number that as the stepparent of a young man going to Iraq, was he, as a human being , going to ask bU$h real questions or cater under to what the WH told him to say..
I know it will be a bullshit PR stunt. everyone does.

[0007]

37. I ain't gonna watch no dog & pony show!

Wait until tomorrow, they'll edit this thing where junior will look like a saint.

Screw it!!

[OneTwentyoNine]

49. This garbage will be so scrubbed Bush will look better than St. Ronnie..

Setup,Fake,manipulated,forged...add your own.


David

[BradCKY]

51. Dishonest Dubya Lying Action Figure (With Choking Pretzel) Page

http://homepage.mac.com/webmasterkai/kaicurry/gwbush/dishonestdubya.html


Funny as hell.