doublethink of bush's pay records

[veganwitch]

ok. shrubco is trying to say that if he continued to get paid, then he was obviously serving his time. money = time.

and cheney still gets millions from halliburton each year and adamantly denies any connection with their current success in getting government bids. money /= time.


edit: for clarity. im not saying that there is any truth to bush's records because im sure that there is none. but right now we have two different ideas running around the white house. bush is trying to prove that he served out his time because he has pay records to "prove" it. cheney is running around saying he has NO connection with the current halliburton even though his pay records prove that he is still receiving money. am i clearer now?

[Walt Starr]

1. The records show nine days from May 1972 - May 1973

That's nine formations in the Guard which amounts to a Friday evening and two weekends.

That's two months duty out of twelve that he was paid for according to the records he produced today.

That says nothing of the fact that the Guard and Reserve routinely pay for drills missed.

[Walt Starr]

2. "We have evidence of payroll related program activities"

That's basically all they are saying.

[420montana]

3. They proved nothing but the fact

they are scrambling, write those letters, post-post-post, keep it up America and Bush is toast!

[veganwitch]

4. yes but my point is...

that bush is trying to say that money (from TANG) equals time served and cheney is saying that money (from halliburton) does not equal time served.

im not going into whether or not there is any truth to the records but rather that the administration is playing some grand doublethink.

[BOHICA06]

5. Please site sourse

for Cheney still recieving pay from Haliburton.

Thanks

[htuttle]

6. Here's one

Cheney is still paid by Pentagon contractor
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,912515,00.html

Halliburton, the Texas company which has been awarded the Pentagon's contract to put out potential oil-field fires in Iraq and which is bidding for postwar construction contracts, is still making annual payments to its former chief executive, the vice-president Dick Cheney.

The payments, which appear on Mr Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure statement, are in the form of "deferred compensation" of up to $1m (£600,000) a year.

When he left Halliburton in 2000 to become George Bush's running mate, he opted not to receive his leaving payment in a lump sum but instead have it paid to him over five years, possibly for tax reasons.

An aide to the vice president said yesterday: "This is money that Mr Cheney was owed by the corporation as part of his salary for the time he was employed by Halliburton and which was a fixed amount paid to him over time."
(more at link)

Here's another from a US source:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/26/politics/main575356.shtml

There are about 100 others if you google for 'Cheney halliburton deferred compensation".

[veganwitch]

8. ok.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,912515,00.html


http://money.cnn.com/2003/09/25/news/companies/cheney/?cnn=yes

and even from newsmax!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/24/80648.shtml

[Old and In the Way]

7. Proves he was ripping off the US taxpayer at the age of 24.

That's about all it proves.

[Bandit]

9. Apples and oranges

Getting paid by an employer is not the same thing as receiving money from something you sold. Cheney sold his shares of Haliburton and is still receiving payment on those shares. It doesn't mean he is working for them although he probably is in a covert fashion. I am not defending either Cheney or Bush* for anything just putting things in proper perspective.

[htuttle]

10. Payment for something he sold?

Nope. Cheney is getting the 'deferred compensation' as part of his former salary package, not for selling his shares.

Story copiously linked above.