There something about Bush's "separation form" that doesn't look right...

[KansDem]

Here is a copy of the form posted by wyldwolf:

I responded with this post:

Help from my fellow DUers

I tried doing searches on the employer listed and found nothing. Then I tried a reverse search on the zip code by entering 36148 and 36149 in both a business database and the US Post Office zip code locater (reverse--enter the zip code and find the location identified by that zip code). Nothing came back: no businesses, no addresses. The US zip code database had the message "The ZIP Code you entered could not be found in our database. Please confirm the ZIP Code and try again."

Do zip codes change?

Here is a link to the US Post Office website. Please, fellow DUers try and see what you come up with (the business database is subscription only and cannot be accessed by non-subscribers). I may not be entering the right numbers.

http://www.usps.com/zip4/citytown.htm

Now that I've look at the form some more, I noticed two different "1s" being used. Look at the number 1 used in the zip code for his civilian employer. Now look at the other 1s: notice the difference? the other 1s have a different serif.

Two different typewriters?

on edit: it seems the typist used "1" and "l" (letter) interchangably.

[northzax]

1. now why bother blacking out the DOB?

it's not like it isn't a matter of public record, right?

[KansDem]

3. strange...

Unless, as someone noted, it might be SOP for information requests of this sort (FOIA?)

[Pale_Rider]

2. 36140 and 36142 are zipcodes for ...

... Montgomery, Alabama.

Here's the full list ...

http://zipinfo.com/cgi-local/zipsrch.exe?zip=montgomery%2C+AL

[KansDem]

4. Thanks!

:hi:

[Qutzupalotl]

5. 1s

Could be two different typewriters. Could also be people hitting a lowercase L for a one in certain areas. Some old typewriters had no 1 key...it was expected that you'd know to hit the L. So that habit could have carried over to this document, even though it looks like this typewriter has a distinct 1 and l.

Long story short, it might not be significant. I don't know about the Zip codes, though.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Zip Code info

Major cities are assigned the whole 3 digit zip ie 36100 through 36199

All minor cities with the same 3 digit zip are assigned in alph order. But not necessarily without skipping zips. ie 36201 36205 36223 36224 36238

[SoCalDem]

6. TAFCS ..??? odd for a pilot??

Army Job (MOS) Descriptions and Qualifications - 13C--Tactical ... - ... The TAFCS specialist leads, supervises, or serves as a member of an activity operating tactical fire direction TAFCS equipment in a field artillery cannon ...
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/arjobs/bl13c.htm

other one

Matching Sites: Page 1 of 19
What is a Matching Site?
Total Active Federal Military Service - ... TOTAL ACTIVE FEDERAL MILITARY SERVICE Total active federal military service (TAFMS) is the sum of total active naval service and other active service. ...
http://www.tpub.com/content/administration/14213/css/14213_55.htm

[LiberalFighter]

20. Why is that info blank?

Shouldn't there be info in those two spots?

[KansDem]

7. Alright, now I'm getting angry...

I work in a library and have access to a business database that my library's subscribes to. This database is actually made up of two databases: business and residential.

I did searches on both databases by entering the zip codes 36140, 36142, 36148, and 36149. Nothing came back: no hits.

If these zip codes are assigned to Montgomery, AL, (as indicated by a previous poster), then they must not be currently in use.

Does anyone know if the US Post Office changes zip codes? Otherwise, why wouldn't any names (business or individuals) come up?

[fob]

8. The zip codes of my hometown changed sometime during my

college years.

The last 3 digits went from 024 to 336, and as far as I know, the older one is no longer in service. It's not like phone area codes that are split and a new one added. BTW this was in early 90's.

As for the "different" 1's, look at the 111th entry near the upper left. It looks like the copying has distorted the serif to look different. The 3 ones in 111th have t distinct looks to them, with the last 1 looking closer to the 1 in the zip code than the two 1's before it. I think this is just a result of typewriter key strikes varying. Keep up the detective work on the employer though.

"The Truth Shall Rise Again!" - Al Gore

[KansDem]

10. I truncated the zip code to "361__"

and received 10,157 businesses and 86,581 residents in Montgomery, AL. None of them appear to have the zip codes 36140, 36142, 36148, or 36149. :shrug:

[GoodSpud]

13. 36140 is an IRS Zip

It is used only for mailing in taxes and such so you will not find any residences or business in that one.

Found via google on public sites so who knows how accurate the info really is.

TDP

[salin]

18. locally when they changed zips (also a college town)

they added new ones - but the original one was kept as well. The first four digits remained the same - but the fifth digit changed in the new zipcodes. The family home still has the original zip code (the same one that would have been active at the time in question) - while many other homes have new ones.

[tom_paine]

9. Oh that's LOVELY, KansDem

As expected, these documents are as fraudulent as a 1978 Soviet Agriculture Report.

I am soooooo shocked...

[KansDem]

11. So what's your point?

I'm just trying to check the accuracy of this document in any way I can. I can't find the employer (could be out of business) and can't find addresses for any of the zip codes that are implied by the one given on the form.

So what's your point?

(edited for grammar)

[Cronus Protagonist]

14. I think that was a compliment.

With sarcasm in the text.

"ANYBODY BUT BUSH" Buttons, Stickers & Magnets

[tom_paine]

15. Sorry, my bad...it was a compliment

I should know better than to mix sarcasm and compliments. Please take it as it was intended...

[LiberalFighter]

19. Campain Mgmt, Allison & Travalan

is probably the name of the outfit running Blount's election campaign. They wouldn't necessarily be in existence now.

[JetJaguar]

23. Likely Allison & Treleaven

Allison & Treleaven


Jimmy Allison
Publisher of the Midland Reporter Telegram


Harry Treleaven
Author of the 1968 slogan "Nixon's the One."

[grasswire]

12. We've had this form for four years.

It was obtained by Marty Heldt before the election.

This is an NGB22, not the DD214. No DD214 has been released. That is the official record of his service.

[proud patriot]

16. What's the deal w/ Harvard business school

Didn't he go to Yale and was denied entry into Harvard ?

[Az]

17. This may be my ignorance

but is this document typed up in one go? Or can it be handed off to various individuals for their contribution? I ask because the angles do not seem to match in the various subsections. The notes typed on the form in sections 1-31 angle down on the right. Section 32 angles up.

[onethatcares]

22. usually there's only one clerk that types up a record

of all things I was a morning reports clerk while in service, no one touched my typewriter while I was doing anything, and no one ever passed something over and said,"hey, would you finish this". BTW, in 72 thru 76 they were using IBM selectrics, not manuals. I had that strange disease that kept me outa the field.

Item no. 25 looks strange tho, "none" ???

[Robin Hood]

24. 5 years, 4 months and 5 days of a 6 year commitment?

Does that seem peculiar to anyone? Is that an admittal of his abscence?